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2 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

https://fb.watch/7-oQ7lbzN8/

Sorry it's a Facebook link, but Buffalo Fanatics posted the 2001 version of the same play (which was successful) and then yesterday's debacle in contrast. If you don't have Facebook:

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In 2001 we had a different QB, different offensive players, different coach, different OC, different GM, different Owner.  There is no relevance.  
 

We could have run a simple QB sneak just like Bart Starr did behind the block of RG Jerry Kramer. That worked in the  famous Ice Bowl versus Dallas. That play is just as relevant.  

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If this is indeed the same play, a lot is different. For one, the personel is. It looks like in 2000 the TE is the guy in motion, not your WR. In fact, it does not look like there is a WR on the field in 2000. If the concept was the same, I think Josh did a bad job of selling it is a sneak. It also looks like the snap might have been a little mistimed with McKenzie coming across. He did a stutter like it was a sweep. Gilliam just sort of stands there and lets the play come to him, which sort of keeps Breida stuck in the backfield waiting for the next guy. 

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11 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

In 2001 we had a different QB, different offensive players, different coach, different OC, different GM, different Owner.  There is no relevance.  
 

We could have run a simple QB sneak just like Bart Starr did behind the block of RG Jerry Kramer. That worked in the  famous Ice Bowl versus Dallas. That play is just as relevant.  

Well, no s**t, Sherlock!! But, the PLAY was the same, just not executed as well. That's the point. 

 

And, yeah, we could have (should have) did a QB sneak with our 6'5" QB, but that wasn't the OP point for posting. 

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50 minutes ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said:

Well, no s**t, Sherlock!! But, the PLAY was the same, just not executed as well. That's the point. 

 

And, yeah, we could have (should have) did a QB sneak with our 6'5" QB, but that wasn't the OP point for posting. 

Well Sherlock, THAT was NOT the exact same play, it was similar but with a key difference.  

 

Yesterday we had our WR split out wide, and when he went in motion he took their CB right into the DE spot where he remained.    That is the same guy that blew up the play.  In the similar (but not identical) 2004 play we  had the End in tight formation and when he went in motion it forced his man to follow him and get out of the way.   The 2021 play had a flawed design.  On top of that everyone else on the 2021 Bills did a poor job selling the play but the Steelers were ready.  
 

Tomlin said he watched all of our preseason games and they took note of Gilliam being used as a FB in short yardage situations multiple times.   When he saw Gilliam trot out for the play they figured we would this time fake to him and go to Brieda.  We made it easier by bringing the wide man in motion and pulling the CB in.  They expected Brieda to get the ball whether it was a pass or a handoff.  

We can find examples of plays that didn’t work yesterday but worked another time all day long but none of it matters.  

 
 

 

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3 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

What Isiah moving did was have the covering CB on him follow him RIGHT to where the play was being developed.

I would hope that the Bills staff would scout the opposition to see if the CB following an in-motion receiver follows him to the opposite side, or if he stops at the end of the line on his side and passes off the receiver to someone from that other side.

 

Does anyone know if the Steelers have a penchant for passing off a receiver in motion?  Or did the CB sniff out the play on his own?

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1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

IT WAS 2004

Yes. During that winning streak when the Bills were beating everyone by 20+.  The Defense and Bledsoe played great from mid-season, until the final week flop.  Still hard to understand how they missed the playoffs.  

 

In 2001 the Bills coach was Greg Williams and they hardly won any games.  Very few well executed plays that year. 

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