Rigotz Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Everyone put your conspiracy theory hats on... now that Darryl Johnson has been traded, my suspicions were confirmed. Did anyone else notice Darryl Johnson getting a ton of hype from the local media this off-season, lots of run during the pre-season, and non-stop barrage of positive press from his coaches? The guy is a very good player, but it seemed very odd for him to be getting THAT much hype. The other player that follows this same script is Jake Kumerow. Non-stop positive press from his coaches, seemingly engineered touches during the pre-season that play to his strengths, and lots of talk in the local media about his special teams ability. With Green Bay trying to keep Aaron Rodgers happy, perhaps Beane is smelling blood on the water? My theory: the Bills had too much talent at DE and WR, so coaches put Kumerow and Darryl Johnson in position to succeed this pre-season, then asked the local media and coaches to gush about their progress, potential, and Special Teams ability. Thoughts? We'll see if Kumerow gets traded as well... 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Shhh not so loud 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Would not surprise me. That being said I would feel better about trading Kumerow then I do about Johnson right now. Though that would be shipping out two guys that figured to play big ST roles...so maybe not? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) I think it’s a bit different. Kumerow was getting the hype from the media because he was making plays. Edited August 30, 2021 by YoloinOhio 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Everyone put your conspiracy theory hats on... now that Darryl Johnson has been traded, my suspicions were confirmed. Did anyone else notice Darryl Johnson getting a ton of hype from the local media this off-season, lots of run during the pre-season, and non-stop barrage of positive press from his coaches? The guy is a very good player, but it seemed very odd for him to be getting THAT much hype. The other player that follows this same script is Jake Kumerow. Non-stop positive press from his coaches, seemingly engineered touches during the pre-season that play to his strengths, and lots of talk in the local media about his special teams ability. With Green Bay trying to keep Aaron Rodgers happy, perhaps Beane is smelling blood on the water? My theory: the Bills had too much talent at DE and WR, so coaches put Kumerow and Darryl Johnson in position to succeed this pre-season, then asked the local media and coaches to gush about their progress, potential, and Special Teams ability. Thoughts? We'll see if Kumerow gets traded as well... Why trade the big, red zone threat? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Beane is so good he even got Aaron Rodgers to hype Kumerow up so we’d get a better draft pick. 4 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Everyone put your conspiracy theory hats on... now that Darryl Johnson has been traded, my suspicions were confirmed. Did anyone else notice Darryl Johnson getting a ton of hype from the local media this off-season, lots of run during the pre-season, and non-stop barrage of positive press from his coaches? The guy is a very good player, but it seemed very odd for him to be getting THAT much hype. The other player that follows this same script is Jake Kumerow. Non-stop positive press from his coaches, seemingly engineered touches during the pre-season that play to his strengths, and lots of talk in the local media about his special teams ability. With Green Bay trying to keep Aaron Rodgers happy, perhaps Beane is smelling blood on the water? My theory: the Bills had too much talent at DE and WR, so coaches put Kumerow and Darryl Johnson in position to succeed this pre-season, then asked the local media and coaches to gush about their progress, potential, and Special Teams ability. Thoughts? We'll see if Kumerow gets traded as well... I heard a lot in the Media about Kumerow making plays. The Media barely talked about Johnson. I think you are way overthinking this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Why trade the big, red zone threat? Agreed. Beasley and Sanders aren't going to be on this team for long and Kumerow could easily have a starting role in this office come 1-2 years from now. Diggs, Davis, Kumerow isn't that far away for me. Even if Beasley stays a few years, our number 4 WR (Davis last year) still gets a lot of work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) I like Jake a lot, but his time is now and not in 2-3 years. The guy is not a rookie. He's 29. He's also a tall guy - a "bigger" receiver, so I don't see him replacing smaller guys like Beasley and Sanders. He's a solid WR 4-7 who will get snaps in special situations such as red zone (jump balls) and 5 wide. Just my opinions, of course. I have no special insights. Edited August 30, 2021 by msw2112 Changed "Davis" to "Sanders" 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, msw2112 said: I like Jake a lot, but his time is now and not in 2-3 years. The guy is not a rookie. He's 29. He's also a tall guy - a "bigger" receiver, so I don't see him replacing smaller guys like Beasley and Davis. He's a solid WR 4-7 who will get snaps in special situations such as red zone (jump balls) and 5 wide. Just my opinions, of course. I have no special insights. don't forget that he is one of our bigger receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: don't forget that he is one of our bigger receivers. The concept was not lost on me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Bobby Hart looks a lot like John Hannah on some running plays 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, msw2112 said: I like Jake a lot, but his time is now and not in 2-3 years. The guy is not a rookie. He's 29. He's also a tall guy - a "bigger" receiver, so I don't see him replacing smaller guys like Beasley and Davis. He's a solid WR 4-7 who will get snaps in special situations such as red zone (jump balls) and 5 wide. Just my opinions, of course. I have no special insights. Exactly - this is his ceiling right now. I’m fine if we keep him as a Duke Williams that can actually come down with the ball in bounds, but the idea that he’ll transcend into a #3 on this team after he turns 30 is silly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Everyone put your conspiracy theory hats on... now that Darryl Johnson has been traded, my suspicions were confirmed. Did anyone else notice Darryl Johnson getting a ton of hype from the local media this off-season, lots of run during the pre-season, and non-stop barrage of positive press from his coaches? The guy is a very good player, but it seemed very odd for him to be getting THAT much hype. The other player that follows this same script is Jake Kumerow. Non-stop positive press from his coaches, seemingly engineered touches during the pre-season that play to his strengths, and lots of talk in the local media about his special teams ability. With Green Bay trying to keep Aaron Rodgers happy, perhaps Beane is smelling blood on the water? My theory: the Bills had too much talent at DE and WR, so coaches put Kumerow and Darryl Johnson in position to succeed this pre-season, then asked the local media and coaches to gush about their progress, potential, and Special Teams ability. Thoughts? We'll see if Kumerow gets traded as well... there is the media's extrapolation of the coaches presser, based on training camp reps and there is the fans consumption of same, which in tends to over-analyze, sensantionalize (see Rodgers Aaron GM wannabe comments) , etc ,bottom of the roster players, Jake K was cut by the Pack, the Bills and the Saints, so he his on his fourth chance in one year. the glass is half-full in that he is getting chances, but its half-empty in that he is bottom-half of anyone receiving core, and really wont move up unless better receiver(s) are hurt...he is this board's new posterboy replacing Duke Williams... Edited August 30, 2021 by First Round Bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 To those rolling their eyes, which is more likely: Scenario A: Kumerow, a player who was cut by the Bengals, Patriots, Packers, Bills, and Saints, at 29 years old is all of a sudden "making plays all over the field." Scenario B: He's getting hyped up in an effort to get some value for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Kumerow is talked about a lot due to the Aaron Rodgers story from last year. That is far more the reason he is in the media than some conspiracy to set up a trade later on. As far as D Johnson is concerned... this is just typical Beane MO. It's what he has done every year prior, except last year in the odd year, and usually it has been with OLinemen. He overstocks the trenches, and then trades away the guys who would be otherwise cut because there are usually teams looking for help along the lines at the end of camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 39 minutes ago, msw2112 said: I like Jake a lot, but his time is now and not in 2-3 years. The guy is not a rookie. He's 29. He's also a tall guy - a "bigger" receiver, so I don't see him replacing smaller guys like Beasley and Davis. He's a solid WR 4-7 who will get snaps in special situations such as red zone (jump balls) and 5 wide. Just my opinions, of course. I have no special insights. Agree with much of your post but wouldnt call Davis (6'3" and 212 pound) small. Maybe you were thinking of McKenzie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I heard they asked Rodgers to mention Kumerow during his hold out with the packers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 53 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Bobby Hart looks a lot like John Hannah on some running plays John Hannah is 70 years old and can probably still play better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I'd prefer to keep Kumerow for the next 2 seasons but if we were to trade him what's his value. A 5th or 6th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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