The Jokeman Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said: 8 wide receivers is a lot Especially when include Hodgins who's hurt unless he plans on IR'ing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Joe's bringing back Hollister after placing guys on IR so it's cool there. I guess he sees Hodgins and is very impressed. I think WR depth is crucial to out run. It definitely contributed heavily to our demise last January. Allen was too alone. Yes, the OL needed to be better, but Allen's weapons were gone just about. Playing with injuries that compromised their game heavily. I'd love to see Allen's numbers go up, but Diggs and Beasley's numbers to go down without injuries taking place. We need to use a whole arsenal. The more the merrier. 7 DEs is kinda crazy anyway you look at it. You figure two are going to be inactive each week.... IDK? Can more than five play effectively? We need help at outside CB. Bates and Doyle are questionable depth at OL (at least, that's how Bates looked to me at center vs. Chicago.) The NFL season is sooooooo long..... I hope Beane creates miracles along the practice squad over the fall.... Were going to need them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 I think one of those 8 WRs (Stevenson or Hodgins)goes to the PS and there will be another TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, billybrew1 said: Joe's bringing back Hollister after placing guys on IR so it's cool there. I guess he sees Hodgins and is very impressed. I think WR depth is crucial to out run. It definitely contributed heavily to our demise last January. Allen was too alone. Yes, the OL needed to be better, but Allen's weapons were gone just about. Playing with injuries that compromised their game heavily. I'd love to see Allen's numbers go up, but Diggs and Beasley's numbers to go down without injuries taking place. We need to use a whole arsenal. The more the merrier. 7 DEs is kinda crazy anyway you look at it. You figure two are going to be inactive each week.... IDK? Can more than five play effectively? We need help at outside CB. Bates and Doyle are questionable depth at OL (at least, that's how Bates looked to me at center vs. Chicago.) The NFL season is sooooooo long..... I hope Beane creates miracles along the practice squad over the fall.... Were going to need them. Our DEs can also lineup inside so that's why not completely crazy thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Buzz Sawyer, blast from the past. Buzz was the epitome of cool; that jamoke Sweeney just took up space in the Saturday Buffalo Evening News funnies. 🤨 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Especially when include Hodgins who's hurt unless he plans on IR'ing him. He is back now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Especially when include Hodgins who's hurt unless he plans on IR'ing him. I know Joe B is pretty dialed in so this team must really like Hodgins for some reason despite his injuries issues. I still think we could easily cut him and put him on the PS though without not clearing waivers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, ngbills said: No way they only keep Knox and Gilliam at TE. Dont see Jake Kumerow, Marquez Stevenson, Isaiah Hodgins all making the roster. One or tow of them max. LB Dodson is making the team Side note - He doesnt even have Fromm on practice squad. Some out there think he has trade value... do you think Fromm has trade value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: do you think Fromm has trade value? Most QBs have some form of trade value, I mean Nate Peterman has a NFL job. So some team might like Fromm's potential and give us some low round pick for him if worried can't get him on the waiver wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Kwai San said: Pretty solid work by Joe here. It is behind the paywall......sorry - it IS worth it. I copied the players has has making and the PS guys. Really think his 53 is much better than any 53 we as fan boys can come up with as he sees them day in and day out. https://theathletic.com/2790305/2021/08/26/bills-53-man-roster-projection-with-one-week-before-cuts-which-spots-are-still-up-in-the-air/ The Initial 53-Man Roster Projection Quarterback (2): Josh Allen, Mitchell Trubisky Running Back (3): Zack Moss, Devin Singletary, Matt Breida Wide Receiver (8): Stefon Diggs, Emmanuel Sanders, Cole Beasley, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah McKenzie, Jake Kumerow, Marquez Stevenson, Isaiah Hodgins Tight End/Fullback (2): Dawson Knox, Reggie Gilliam Offensive Tackles (4): Dion Dawkins, Daryl Williams, Spencer Brown, Tommy Doyle Interior Offensive Line (5): Mitch Morse, Jon Feliciano, Cody Ford, Ike Boettger, Ryan Bates Defensive Ends (7): Jerry Hughes, Greg Rousseau, Mario Addison, A.J. Epenesa, Boogie Basham, Efe Obada, Darryl Johnson Defensive Tackles (5): Ed Oliver, Star Lotulelei, Justin Zimmer, Harrison Phillips, Vernon Butler Linebackers (5): Tremaine Edmunds, Matt Milano, A.J. Klein, Andre Smith, Tyler Matakevich Cornerbacks (5): Tre’Davious White, Levi Wallace, Taron Johnson, Dane Jackson, Siran Neal Safeties (4): Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Jaquan Johnson, Damar Hamlin Specialists (3): K Tyler Bass, P Matt Haack, LS Reid Ferguson Practice Squad (if unclaimed): QB Davis Webb RB Antonio Williams RB Christian Wade WR Tanner Gentry WR Brandon Powell WR Steven Sims TE Quintin Morris OT Bobby Hart G/C Jamil Douglas G Jack Anderson DT Brandin Bryant LB Tyrell Adams LB Tyrel Dodson CB Rachad Wildgoose CB Nick McCloud CB Olaijah Griffin S Josh Thomas there are some odd moves here. I understand there is the issue of getting to in season and thrn in season IRthrn resign vets. vested vets don’t get claimed so they will get resigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: do you think Fromm has trade value? I do not. I think if cut he may get picked up for some teams PS. I just don't see the arm strength or athletic ability to play in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanThru-N-Thru Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, djp14150 said: there are some odd moves here. I understand there is the issue of getting to in season and thrn in season IRthrn resign vets. vested vets don’t get claimed so they will get resigned. Exactly!! He expects the Bills to cut some vested veterans with the intent of bringing them back once the 53 roster is set and they can place people on IR so that they can come back sometime this season. I foresee that happening also. Beane doesn't want to lose future potential talent for the team if he can get them onto IR and figuring out what to do during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Our DEs can also lineup inside so that's why not completely crazy thought. But can they stop the run? I think that's the big question. That's how teams are going to play us. No one (but KC) wants to get in a shootout with Josh slinging it Allen. Who on the Bills is going to play tackle and eat up blockers play in and play out? Are our ends tough enough to do that? I watched Basham at tackle and he might be able to help. I wish we had Ted Washington. I really do. If we had him, all those teams looking to run on us would be ruined (as long as Ted was on the field, he'd stack the whole play up.) Vernon is the closest thing we have to Ted because t I think he plays too high. Maybe Star can help, but he's on y good for limited snaps. Zimmer is more of a knifer, but every tackle is taught how to stack. I really loved our draft, I like every pick, but especially the first three. We needed them all. The trouble is we needed a CB and a DT, imho.... and a TE (LOL!) We could use a guy like that old DT on Tampa. A real shutdown guy. He's no Ted Washington, but He is the closest thing to him I can recall now. I expect a DT #1 next year. Then G/C, CB, WR/TE..... I expect to be disappointed with the DT, somehow I expect the Bills to draft a smaller athletic type (like Star) of one-tech whereas I want a big monster, like Ted Washington. 22 hrs. to Bills/packer kickoff. Do both teams run their #1s a bit? It feels like the Bills have to in order to field a team.... This would be quite the matchup in the regular season though I like the Bills here. Allen has more weapons at his disposal. The teams are pretty close though as the packers have a good line, running game and defense. Good, not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Only ONE TE on the final roster? Um, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Slacks Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 We can go 7 WR. No way we go 8. Kumerow can replace Taiwan Jones as gunner I believe. So that would be the swap for the 4th RB. Giliam plays RB/TE. But we would at bare minimum carry Knox and Hollister. The log jam at DE is crazy. I bet we trade one. No way we hold onto 7. Some years we only have carried 4 (maybe 5). This year to carry 6 would be a lot. LB I suppose would be where we sacrifice for extra defensive linemen. This will no doubt be quite the debate once we see final cuts/roster. Joe B I enjoy his stuff but he is way off here I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 hours ago, uninja said: Two TE's on the active roster? No Jacob Hollister? 8 WRs? This list is sus. Give the current predicament the team could be in in the future, keeping a ton of WR makes some sense, but something has to give at another position group for that to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: - agree with RB. I know Jones is a great ST player but you have to make sacrifices sometimes and he probably will be out there on the street if we really need him back later this season. - No way we are cutting Hollister and it has nothing to do with being JA's former college teamate, IMO right now he's a better TE than Knox based on his previous resume. If you read on in Joe's article - you would see: Re-sign RB Taiwan Jones and TE Jake Hollister: Now to the roster madness. This is a move Beane loves using at final cuts. He identifies vested veterans — players with over four accrued years of NFLservice or more — near the middle to bottom of the roster, on the final year of their contracts and without a ton of guaranteed money owed. Vested veterans do not need to pass through waivers and may immediately sign wherever they choose. Beane releases them initially, gives them some money for their trouble and re-signs them to give his team flexibility. In this case, it’s with the injuries to McKenzie and Phillips. That small move with Jones and Hollister would keep McKenzie and Phillips available to return off IR this year while keeping on two other younger players they otherwise would have had to cut. Jones has $700,000 guaranteed this year, and Hollister only has $137,500 guaranteed, according to OverTheCap.com. Upon their re-signing, it’s fair to expect their new contracts would be close to fully guaranteed for the season with a nice little signing bonus. Edited August 26, 2021 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Hollister? No way they go with only Knox and Gilliam at TE. 8 QR seems excessive . And 12 DL? This is nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 8WRs on the active roster and 3WRs more on the PS seems nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Georgie said: Hollister? No way they go with only Knox and Gilliam at TE. 8 QR seems excessive . And 12 DL? This is nuts See my post directly above yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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