All_Pro_Bills Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 19 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Bigger picture: I found this interview fascinating (courtesy of the marginalrevolution blog): https://www.statecraft.pub/p/how-to-run-a-cia-base-in-afghanistan?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=7b960&triedRedirect=true It's with a former CIA Chief of Base in Afghanistan. Excellent discussion of what the CIA does, and also of why the ultimate mission was doomed to failure. Interesting. But everyone with an understanding of the history of Afghanistan, the graveyard of empires, understood on day one the mission initiated by GW Bush was doomed to failure. Blame some of that on scope-creep. Although i can't remember all the details, almost everybody was hot and heavy for the idea at the time and I'm sure anyone in the minority that dared to object or raise concerns was called an "isolationist" and an "appeaser". An interesting thing about this 20 year "mission" is it was started by an idiot President and ended by an idiot President. With these military adventures, somebody always pays the price for bad decisions and policies. Almost always our men and women of the armed forces. The shame is that its never the people actually making the decisions. Rather than being exiled or shot after their failures, they move on to other roles in the Washington uni-party game such as lobbyists or at war cheer leading think tanks where they're employed and well-compensated to do more damage. Meanwhile, when our our brave and honorable veterans, many left disabled or damaged, are no longer useful they're discarded by the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: An interesting thing about this 20 year "mission" is it was started by an idiot President and ended by an idiot President. Good one. And I won't put up an argument against it. These days we have to choose the lesser idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 20 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: An interesting thing about this 20 year "mission" is it was started by an idiot President and ended by an idiot President. It wasn't started by any president. It was started by a terrorist industry led by a lunatic, whom they were harboring, and who was exporting its murder. The regime was offered an option to give him and his training industry up, and they refused. We didn't "start" it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Add THIS to Biden's LEGACY: Taliban Reinstates Policy of Stoning Women Remember when Biden pulled out of Afghanistan which resulted in the deaths of 13 members of our military AND the Taliban 'receiving' millions and millions of dollars worth of our military equipment? Yeah, that sucked. Want to know what sucks more ? This. Ooooh, that's right. He's also giving them money ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: Add THIS to Biden's LEGACY: Wow - look how hard you twist history - who the F handed Afghanistan to the Taliban in the FIRST PLACE? Fkn idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 REMINDER: the Biden Administration is incompetent. Kirby Squirms and Stammers As He Gets Nailed on Difference in Israeli Strike vs Biden Strike on Innocents By Nick Arama Kirby did an interview with Fox's Martha MacCallum on her show, "The Story." The subject essentially was the Biden team throwing Israel under the bus with the things the Biden team has said. Kirby protested, saying that they stood with Israel, but they wanted changes to dealing with civilian casualties in the wake of the accidental killing of the aid workers in an Israeli strike in Gaza. Then MacCallum truly nailed him when she asked about the difference between the Israeli strike, which she described as a "trigger moment" for the U.S. to go off about Israeli's "tactics" and accountability. Meanwhile, she asked how this was different from the strike on the innocent family, with the guy who had helped the U.S. and so many children, being killed -- 10 people killed. Boy, that's all you can say? That's how you know even he couldn't find much of anything to tell the difference. He said the military would make changes to deal with "systemic" issues, but there was no need for "personal accountability." Oh, okay. You're making changes, but no one is responsible. https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2024/04/05/kirby-left-stammering-when-asked-difference-between-israeli-strike-and-biden-strike-that-killed-innocents-n2172369 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Demented Biden and Third Term Obammy completely ***** this up. Add it to the list. Blood on their hands. What a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 hours ago, B-Man said: REMINDER: the Biden Administration is incompetent. Kirby Squirms and Stammers As He Gets Nailed on Difference in Israeli Strike vs Biden Strike on Innocents By Nick Arama Kirby did an interview with Fox's Martha MacCallum on her show, "The Story." The subject essentially was the Biden team throwing Israel under the bus with the things the Biden team has said. Kirby protested, saying that they stood with Israel, but they wanted changes to dealing with civilian casualties in the wake of the accidental killing of the aid workers in an Israeli strike in Gaza. Then MacCallum truly nailed him when she asked about the difference between the Israeli strike, which she described as a "trigger moment" for the U.S. to go off about Israeli's "tactics" and accountability. Meanwhile, she asked how this was different from the strike on the innocent family, with the guy who had helped the U.S. and so many children, being killed -- 10 people killed. Boy, that's all you can say? That's how you know even he couldn't find much of anything to tell the difference. He said the military would make changes to deal with "systemic" issues, but there was no need for "personal accountability." Oh, okay. You're making changes, but no one is responsible. https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2024/04/05/kirby-left-stammering-when-asked-difference-between-israeli-strike-and-biden-strike-that-killed-innocents-n2172369 Pathetic. And I like John Kirby although that's only because he seems like a nice guy. But like most, it wouldn't surprise me if he were a POS behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Devastating new details reveal more State Department chaos in the two weeks before the Afghanistan disaster: U.S. staff STILL didn't have a full evacuation plan when the Taliban stormed Kabul... by Rob Crilly Hours of private testimony by two of the top State Department officials who oversaw the evacuation from Afghanistan lays bare the confusion at the heart of the operation, and how they failed to respond to warning signs that the Taliban was sweeping across the country. The result was a chaotic operation at Kabul's airport in August 2021 with Americans scrambling to get on flights after the extremist group had seized control of the country. American citizens had to pass through checkpoints run by the same gunmen who had spent years battling U.S. forces. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13293745/donald-trump-afghanistan-withdrawal-investigation-house.html . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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