Max Fischer Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think those choices are comparable with being vaccinated. The others are all pure football. The vaccine is more than that. I think it is a relevant football consideration don't get me wrong, but it is not only about football. I think that is a bit of a false equivalence to compare it to not learning the playbook, with respect. Nah Hapless is in the Beas thread. Nope. It's a choice. You know what it takes to contribute to winning. If you choose not to what it takes then your team should choose to dismiss you. The outcome seems to make you uncomfortable but it's not that complicated for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Can someone direct me to the football chat? I seem to have lost my way. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It's imperfection. We mods are imperfect. Alert the media! Also sometimes we remove posts that quote removed posts, but the post itself isn't a problem so if someone quotes it it stays IDK if that makes sense, probably not 🤷♂️ Apparently, that's not their assessment of him They didn't have to fire him, technically, over this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Indeed but how many of us suddenly have the terms of our employment on a matter as serious as this changed under our noses and the only options being conform or go? It is dangerous territory in my view. The league has provided a 3rd (tougher restrictions) option for players, I personally think they should do the same for coaches. And believe me I have little time for the anti-vax argument. I see no reason to accommodate those who choose not to adapt to changing circumstances that could lead to forfiet games or, ya know, death of a team member. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Lots of people posting their vital statistics in this thread, I thought I was on a dating site. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mickey said: Can someone direct me to the football chat? I seem to have lost my way. I bet you’ll care if the Bills are forced to forfiet one or more games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, GLP said: Goodbye to a couple of “less than critical thinkers”… (aka mor.ns) Critical Thinking: “The objective analysis and evaluation of an issue in order to form a judgment.” Bye,bye to Cole as well… good riddance! Man, I just can't roll with this. Look, I'm breaking a rule, kind of - but the thing is there is SO much misinformation out there about the vaccine. SO many conspiracy theories. Just on Cole Beasley's twitter feed today, he re-tweets two people who actually have legit credentials (MD; DVM with PhD in Virology) and who claim even grander credentials (which are pretty much overblown puffery), then critique the vaccines sharply. To me, they stick out like sore thumbs as not legit, but to a person who is not trained in science it's probably very difficult to spot what's amiss. I asked a friend, "here are these two guys, they are legitimately an MD and a DVM with PhD in Virology. When you look them up, does anything strike you as off?" My point is, while it breaks my heart, I really can't fault Beasley or anyone else who gets deluged by misinformation and has trouble sorting through it and doesn't know what to believe, especially if they are primed to distrust "mainstream media" and government. And no, it's not good riddance, Cole Beasley is a Dog and a Baller. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They didn't have to fire him, technically, over this.. What is the alternative? Pay him not to do his job? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Max Fischer said: What is the alternative? Pay him not to do his job? He may "coach without direct in-person contact with either the players or his fellow coaches by not getting the vaccine, per NFL COVID-19 protocols." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Lots of people posting their vital statistics in this thread, I thought I was on a dating site. It's the new recipe discussion. For dinner tonight, we had oven roast green beans, oven roasted eggplant parm, and basil tomato salad, all from our garden. Delish! And FTR I'm short, old, and fat. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Man, I just can't roll with this. Look, I'm breaking a rule, kind of - but the thing is there is SO much misinformation out there about the vaccine. SO many conspiracy theories. Just on Cole Beasley's twitter feed today, he re-tweets two people who actually have legit credentials (MD; DVM with PhD in Virology) and who claim even grander credentials (which are pretty much overblown puffery), then critique the vaccines sharply. To me, they stick out like sore thumbs as not legit, but to a person who is not trained in science it's probably very difficult to spot what's amiss. I asked a friend, "here are these two guys, they are legitimately an MD and a DVM with PhD in Virology. When you look them up, does anything strike you as off?" My point is, while it breaks my heart, I really can't fault Beasley or anyone else who gets deluged by misinformation and has trouble sorting through it. And no, it's not good riddance, Cole Beasley is a Dog and a Baller. Guys like Beasley are simply using this as a prop for their political statement (refusing vaccination). I don't think he's very bright, but he's not burdened by any misinformation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Guys like Beasley are simply using this as a prop for their political statement (refusing vaccination). I don't think he's very bright, but he's not burdened by any misinformation. But he is burdened by misinformation, WEO. He is. I'm not going to try to claim his doubts about vaccination didn't come first, and then he looked for sources to reinforce his doubts, but the point is, there's stuff out there that sounds legit and he's citing it. I'll PM you a bunch of stuff and maybe you can give me your medically knowledgeable take on how you "out" the shysters without cluttering the board? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: But he is burdened by misinformation, WEO. He is. I'm not going to try to claim his doubts about vaccination didn't come first, and then he looked for sources to reinforce his doubts, but the point is, there's stuff out there that sounds legit and he's citing it. I'll PM you a bunch of stuff and maybe you can give me your medically knowledgeable take on how you "out" the shysters without cluttering the board? I'm cynical by nature. I think he may not believe any of those sources (or doesn't care)--he clearly has put himself out there as a guy who won't let others (the NFL, "The Government") tell him what to do. There are obviously millions like that in this country regarding this very issue. I'm comfortable that he is simply doing his internet sources to post "see? science agrees with me". I don't believe at all that he is confused. His political believes are guiding his public statements. Luckil for him there are more agendized individuals out there willing to put forth this junk to confuse and persuade the least intelligent of the population so they will agree with their and his point of view and he can be viewed as some sort of beacon or hero or leader in this huge circle. If there was NO legit sounding stuff (have we really forgotten about "Plandemic" already??), Beasley would cite the My Pillow guy or whoever, and people would still say "RIGHT ON, MAN!". Edited July 24, 2021 by Mr. WEO 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I'm cynical by nature. I think he may not believe any of those sources (or doesn't care)--he clearly has put himself out there as a guy who won't let others (the NFL, "The Government") tell him what to do. There are obviously millions like that in this country regarding this very issue. I'm comfortable that he is simply doing his internet sources to post "see? science agrees with me". I don't believe at all that he is confused. His political believes are guiding his public statements. Luckil for him there are more agendized individuals out there willing to put forth this junk to confuse and persuade the least intelligent of the population so they will agree with their and his point of view and he can be viewed as some sort of beacon or hero or leader in this huge circle. If there was NO legit sounding stuff (have we really forgotten about "Plandemic" already??), Beasley would cite the My Pillow guy or whoever, and people would still say "RIGHT ON, MAN!". I'll leave it at agree to disagree and move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Rick Dennison, huh? Why doesn't this surprise me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I remember the great Cris Carter speaking at a rookie symposium and telling them "the NFL don't need you." "Playing in the NFL is a honor, not a privilege" I hope they remember this. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I really can't fault Beasley or anyone else who gets deluged by misinformation and has trouble sorting through it and doesn't know what to believe, especially if they are primed to distrust "mainstream media" and government. Ugh!!!! I can fault people. The “ Mainstream media” is in the mainstream because they aren’t on the fringe. People who are stupid enough to believe Medical Professionals are out to get them because someone told them so deserve what they get. Beasely has the resources to make an informed decision and he isn’t. His choice , which I actually support. I also support the consequences he will face. It shouldn’t be a news flash to anyone that the owners are in this to make money and have and will roll over anyone that gets in their way. Including Beasely and some coaches who are exercising their freedom of choice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: I remember the great Cris Carter speaking at a rookie symposium and telling them "the NFL don't need you." "Playing in the NFL is a honor, not a privilege" I hope they remember this. Is that the same Cris Carter who told the same rookies at the same symposium that they needed to have a fall guy handy in case they ever got into trouble? That Cris Carter? Yeah, I know he apologized for the remarks but only after realizing he put his media career in jeopardy by uttering them in the first place. Edited July 24, 2021 by K-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, K-9 said: Is that the same Cris Carter who told the same rookies at the same symposium that they needed to have a fall guy handy in case they ever got into trouble? That Cris Carter? Yeah, I know he apologized for the remarks but only after realizing he put his media career in jeopardy by uttering them in the first place. Don't everyone have one of those... a wingman? 😎. I've been one numerous times 😁You don't know how many times my buddy fell asleep on my couch Edited July 24, 2021 by Solomon Grundy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Doesn't Bill Belichick have some illegitimate son somewhere who can coach the offensive line for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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