CorkScrewHill Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) They started officially counting sacks as a statistic in the 80s so there was always a question as to whether someone from the 60s or 70s may have had more. Researchers from Pro Football Reference went through all old game film and while there are some new names near the top e.g. Deacon Jones .. Bruce’s 200 is still tops https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/15/bruce-smith-unofficial-sack-leaders-buffalo-bills/ he was a sight to see Edited July 23, 2021 by CorkScrewHill 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: They started officially counting sacks as a statistic in the 80s so there was always a question as to whether someone from the 60s or 70s may have had more. Researches went through all old game film and while there are some new names near the top e.g. Deacon Jones .. Bruce’s 200 is still tops https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/15/bruce-smith-unofficial-sack-leaders-buffalo-bills/ he was a sight to see He was, IMO, the best Buffalo Bills player ever. I would have let him sit when he wanted a new contract right after his new contract, however. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Augie said: He was, IMO, the best Buffalo Bills player ever. I would have let him sit when he wanted a new contract right after his new contract, however. The quickest Bruce ever tried to use leverage to get a new contract was after two years of a three year contract. (He got a new contract in '97 when he'd signed a three-year deal in '95.) That is hardly "right after" his new contract. And that three-year deal was three years for $8.3 M. Not $8.3 M per year, but $8.3 over three years. Even at the time he was worth more. Agreed that he was the best Bills player ever. There are two or thee others in the conversation, but I think he was the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said: They started officially counting sacks as a statistic in the 80s so there was always a question as to whether someone from the 60s or 70s may have had more. Researchers from Pro Football Reference went through all old game film and while there are some new names near the top e.g. Deacon Jones .. Bruce’s 200 is still tops https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/15/bruce-smith-unofficial-sack-leaders-buffalo-bills/ he was a sight to see Dude, awesome find. Thanks for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Fascinating read. That all time sack leader list has a lot of new names on it. And "Bubba" Baker technically has the record for single season sacks with 23, in his rookie year, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 It’s crazy Bruce played for 18 years as well. I agree though, best Buffalo player ever. Guy was absolutely amazing to watch. They could double team him all day and it didn’t matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: The quickest Bruce ever tried to use leverage to get a new contract was after two years of a three year contract. (He got a new contract in '97 when he'd signed a three-year deal in '95.) That is hardly "right after" his new contract. And that three-year deal was three years for $8.3 M. Not $8.3 M per year, but $8.3 over three years. Even at the time he was worth more. Agreed that he was the best Bills player ever. There are two or thee others in the conversation, but I think he was the best. Bruce on defense. OJ on offense. Talent wise best players in Bills history. Both are in the conversation for best ever at their position. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 8 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: They started officially counting sacks as a statistic in the 80s so there was always a question as to whether someone from the 60s or 70s may have had more. Researchers from Pro Football Reference went through all old game film and while there are some new names near the top e.g. Deacon Jones .. Bruce’s 200 is still tops https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/15/bruce-smith-unofficial-sack-leaders-buffalo-bills/ he was a sight to see Decided to listen to article since was option. Advertisement for Patriot Payroll was a bad choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 I remember hearing a quarterback from another team back in the day complaining about how hard it was to play against Bruce, but he said what was worse was Bruce would eat raw garlic before the game and if he got to the quarterback he would lay on him an extra few seconds and just breathe his garlic breath into the quarterback's facemask. The guy was more worried about that then actually getting hit. I can't source it as it was 20+ years ago .. but I always thought that it made Bruce Smith a psychological warfare expert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: And that three-year deal was three years for $8.3 M. Not $8.3 M per year, but $8.3 over three years. Even at the time he was worth more. Don't sign the contract then. And about another former Bills player, don't accept a pay advance borrowing from the next season, then act outraged when that next season has a lower salary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: I remember hearing a quarterback from another team back in the day complaining about how hard it was to play against Bruce, but he said what was worse was Bruce would eat raw garlic before the game and if he got to the quarterback he would lay on him an extra few seconds and just breathe his garlic breath into the quarterback's facemask. The guy was more worried about that then actually getting hit. I can't source it as it was 20+ years ago .. but I always thought that it made Bruce Smith a psychological warfare expert I love garlic. When I am cutting garlic for my wife certain parts she does not want so I just nibble on them while cutting. Same thing for onions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 https://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/02/sports/football/where-have-you-gone-garlic-breath.html Maybe he got tip from Joe Scibell. Quote Smells Like Team Spirit Joe Scibelli really stank during his N.F.L. career with the Los Angeles Rams, from 1961 to 1975. He was an offensive guard who lined up against many of the toughest behemoths in the game. But Scibelli used a secret weapon to gain a blocking edge: bad breath. Munching on cloves of raw garlic before and during games, he would exhale into the faces of defensive linemen just before the snap. "Their faces would wrinkle up and they looked like they were going to throw up," he said. "I could blow them away with my breath." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Augie said: He was, IMO, the best Buffalo Bills player ever. I would have let him sit when he wanted a new contract right after his new contract, however. I’d have to put Bruce right behind Thurman Thomas as best Buffalo Bills player ever. Yes, Bruce impacted games with his sacks, but Thurman did it with his rushing, receiving and pass blocking. The NFL recognizes Marshall Faulk as best all around back, but I’d give the nod to Thurman or Marcus Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I’d have to put Bruce right behind Thurman Thomas as best Buffalo Bills player ever. Yes, Bruce impacted games with his sacks, but Thurman did it with his rushing, receiving and pass blocking. The NFL recognizes Marshall Faulk as best all around back, but I’d give the nod to Thurman or Marcus Allen Agree. When Marshall Faulk played he was described as "Thurman like" in his play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Limeaid said: I love garlic. When I am cutting garlic for my wife certain parts she does not want so I just nibble on them while cutting. Same thing for onions. Do you do the same while cutting limes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, DJB said: Do you do the same while cutting limes? I would but my wife does not use them in cooking. I cannot think of a single Cantonese dish using limes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: I remember hearing a quarterback from another team back in the day complaining about how hard it was to play against Bruce, but he said what was worse was Bruce would eat raw garlic before the game and if he got to the quarterback he would lay on him an extra few seconds and just breathe his garlic breath into the quarterback's facemask. The guy was more worried about that then actually getting hit. I can't source it as it was 20+ years ago .. but I always thought that it made Bruce Smith a psychological warfare expert I want to say it was Elway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Has Bruce Smith had any contact with Greg Rousseau? I remember Smith saying he wanted to work with Rousseau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoName Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 A lot of these guys have nice stats, however, Bruce got sacks when it mattered. How many times on a third down did he come around that corner and get a sack that the team needed? The guy is by far the Best Bills player I have ever seen and I jumped on the bandwagon at the start of the first super bowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Doc said: I want to say it was Elway. I also think Boomer Esiason may have mentioned it, possibly during a broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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