Orlando Tim Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: There are Covid patients who can be managed in a regular unit with O2 supplementation, postural changes to assist breathing, and so on. You realize I work in health care? Perhaps you are causing confusion because you don’t know either the subject matter well or because you can’t express your thoughts clearly. You would consider people needing O2 supplementation as non symptomatic? My back and forth in this regards was to non symptomatic people. I expressed myself clearly with a link and explanation the first- you tried to reply to a one line response I had to someone and acted like it was my whole topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, Buffalo Timmy said: You would consider people needing O2 supplementation as non symptomatic? My back and forth in this regards was to non symptomatic people. I expressed myself clearly with a link and explanation the first- you tried to reply to a one line response I had to someone and acted like it was my whole topic I got in late, correct. Got you. Non symptomatic people just need to stay home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Parents Plan To Sue Over Mask Mandate PARKER, Colo. (CBS4) – Some parents are suing Tri-County Health Department over its mask mandate. At issue is whether teachers and administrators can be arrested, charged and prosecuted, not only if they don’t wear masks themselves in school, but if their students don’t wear masks. The superintendent of Littleton Public Schools told the school board last week they could be held criminally liable for not enforcing the mask mandate. https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/09/14/tri-county-health-teachers-could-face-criminal-charges-if-they-dont-enforce-school-mask-mandate/ Land of the free. Unless there is a flu outbreak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Joe says he is impatient with those not getting the vaccines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, B-Man said: Joe says he is impatient with those not getting the vaccines. 👆the pro life party has spoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Thank God you know so much about people who are recovering from cancer. You would truly rather they have a terrible reaction to the vaccine than weigh their own risks and simply keep themselves safe. Follow the advice of your doctor. The end. For cancer patients and non. It is pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Parents Plan To Sue Over Mask Mandate PARKER, Colo. (CBS4) – Some parents are suing Tri-County Health Department over its mask mandate. At issue is whether teachers and administrators can be arrested, charged and prosecuted, not only if they don’t wear masks themselves in school, but if their students don’t wear masks. The superintendent of Littleton Public Schools told the school board last week they could be held criminally liable for not enforcing the mask mandate. https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/09/14/tri-county-health-teachers-could-face-criminal-charges-if-they-dont-enforce-school-mask-mandate/ Land of the free. Unless there is a flu outbreak There's several issues here. Does the jurisdiction have the authority to issue the mandate with or without the consent of its citizens? And do masks have any positive impact on inhibiting the spread of the virus? By mask type, by social setting, etc. And if so, what is the objective measure of that increase in protection for the specific situation? And does the level of increased protection (if any) produce a benefit that exceeds any and all costs (financial, social, etc,) associated with the mandate? The first one is for the courts to decide, the next two for the medical and scientific community to provide, and the last for the communities and people involved to discuss and collectively decide. We're making all of this way too hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Look at these "actors"...........right governor ? A federal judge has blocked the state of New York from forcing medical workers to be vaccinated after a group of healthcare workers sued the state, including the governor, the health department, and others, claiming their constitutional rights were violated. Judge David Hurd in Utica issued the order on Tuesday. Several litigants, including doctors and nurses, claimed their First Amendment rights were violated by a vaccine mandate, which does not allow for religious exemptions. For the last seven weeks, New York radio talk show host Shannon Joy has been rallying the medical community in Rochester and huge groups of health professionals have been marching outside the University of Rochester Medical Center every week, speaking out against what they say is medical tyranny in the form of vaccine mandates. According to the lawsuit, “The plaintiffs herein are medical professionals whose sincere religious beliefs compel them to refuse vaccination with the available COVID-19 vaccines, all of which employ aborted fetus cell lines in their testing, development, or production.” Rochester, NY: 1,000 STRONG TODAY! #RallyForMedicalFreedom https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2021/09/15/federal-judge-blocks-forced-vaccination-for-medical-personnel-in-new-york-n1478821 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockeye Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158207967261135&id=80221381134&m_entstream_source=timeline&__tn__=*s*s-R This is an interesting read, especially the comments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 42 minutes ago, B-Man said: Look at these "actors"...........right governor ? A federal judge has blocked the state of New York from forcing medical workers to be vaccinated after a group of healthcare workers sued the state, including the governor, the health department, and others, claiming their constitutional rights were violated. Judge David Hurd in Utica issued the order on Tuesday. Several litigants, including doctors and nurses, claimed their First Amendment rights were violated by a vaccine mandate, which does not allow for religious exemptions. For the last seven weeks, New York radio talk show host Shannon Joy has been rallying the medical community in Rochester and huge groups of health professionals have been marching outside the University of Rochester Medical Center every week, speaking out against what they say is medical tyranny in the form of vaccine mandates. According to the lawsuit, “The plaintiffs herein are medical professionals whose sincere religious beliefs compel them to refuse vaccination with the available COVID-19 vaccines, all of which employ aborted fetus cell lines in their testing, development, or production.” Rochester, NY: 1,000 STRONG TODAY! #RallyForMedicalFreedom https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2021/09/15/federal-judge-blocks-forced-vaccination-for-medical-personnel-in-new-york-n1478821 These mandates are for show, i knew they would have a rough time holding up in court 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Remember "gradual phased reopenings" way way way back in April 2020? Thats what this bull s*** is. We are done when Team Karen stops politicizing every case and death. Not when bureaucrats tell us. When will the COVID-19 pandemic end? Experts explain The 'end' of COVID-19 might mean the point at which is can be managed as an endemic disease; however, the emergence of a significant new variant is the greatest risk which could hinder this. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/09/mckinsey-experts-offer-their-latest-analysis-on-when-covid-19-will-end/ All you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, Big Blitz said: Remember "gradual phased reopenings" way way way back in April 2020? Thats what this bull s*** is. We are done when Team Karen stops politicizing every case and death. Not when bureaucrats tell us. When will the COVID-19 pandemic end? Experts explain The 'end' of COVID-19 might mean the point at which is can be managed as an endemic disease; however, the emergence of a significant new variant is the greatest risk which could hinder this. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/09/mckinsey-experts-offer-their-latest-analysis-on-when-covid-19-will-end/ All you need to know. Except for travel to certain countries that won't let me in, which is annoying for work purposes, I'm not sure there's currently one thing I can't do because of the pandemic. I know you like the narrative that this is all a government plan to exercise endless control but the MiC is doing a terrible job if that's the goal. All restaurants open. All schools open. All stadiums open at capacity. And that's in the socialist meccas of NY and CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 12 hours ago, B-Man said: Joe says he is impatient with those not getting the vaccines. I’m getting impatient with his running the country into the ground...Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Today we'll go to the Netherlands for Why Vaccines Work, because why not? The Dutch are cool. Vaccine effectiveness •Against Hospitalization: 95% •Against ICU Admission: 97% https://www.rivm.nl/sites/default/files/2021-08/Effectiviteit van COVID-19 vaccinatieVV270821.pdf 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I’m getting impatient with his running the country into the ground...Lol On this we can agree. Trump was a bad president. Joe is an incompetent president. We can do better America. Edited September 15, 2021 by Sundancer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 7:02 AM, Governor said: The Ivermectin OD patients. They should be sending the unvaccinated home. They shouldn’t be receiving any care whatsoever. At this point, if you’re that stupid, it should probably cost you your life. There’s plenty of other “cures” out there. Alex Jones knows what they are. https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/13/health/rationing-care-hospital-beds-staff-explainer-wellness/index.html Do you think health care should be a right, or a privilege? Should a person that is sick be able to get care, or should they have to prove they have followed the medically prescribed path first to get care? If an overweight person gets a heart attack do we help them? Who makes the decision about what people are too stupid so we just let them die? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Do you think health care should be a right, or a privilege? Should a person that is sick be able to get care, or should they have to prove they have followed the medically prescribed path first to get care? If an overweight person gets a heart attack do we help them? Who makes the decision about what people are too stupid so we just let them die? Yep. All obese Covid patients should be turned away, right ? I mean, a lifetime of poor choices put them in that predicament. A lot of hospital space would be freed up. A mostly empty hospital is the ideal business model. Lefties are truly deranged. Edited September 15, 2021 by Boatdrinks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Do you think health care should be a right, or a privilege ? Should a person that is sick be able to get care, or should they have to prove they have followed the medically prescribed path first to get care? If an overweight person gets a heart attack do we help them? Who makes the decision about what people are too stupid so we just let them die? No, that poster does not. meanwhile First Lady Jill Biden — a teacher — refuses to answer if vaccine mandates are appropriate for teachers https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/09/15/first-lady-jill-biden-a-teacher-refuses-to-answer-if-vaccine-mandates-are-appropriate-for-teachers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Do you think health care should be a right, or a privilege? Should a person that is sick be able to get care, or should they have to prove they have followed the medically prescribed path first to get care? If an overweight person gets a heart attack do we help them? Who makes the decision about what people are too stupid so we just let them die? HC isn’t a right, and until it is, there’s no use discussing that. I have no patience for fat people either but you can’t catch fat from someone. B-man can’t breathe on me and make me fat. Down the road, if you wanted to criminalize being fat, regulate what we can eat, I would be happy to have that conversation. By remaining unvaccinated, they’ve already told us they’re too stupid and shouldn’t be in public. As I previously said, unvaccinated go to the back of the line. If the hospital is empty, then by all means go ahead and treat them. People chose to stay unvaccinated because there’s countless other cures and home remedies available. They shouldn’t be at the hospital in the first place. It’s just sniffles. Edited September 15, 2021 by Governor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 your opinion on the matter doesnt matter, anyone showing up at the hospital will be treated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 https://www.wivb.com/sports/buffalo-bills/beasley-ferguson-offer-to-buy-away-game-tickets-for-unvaccinated-fans/ This is how real, freedom loving Americans roll. These other guys, talking about withholding healthcare? That sounds like something a Taliban would do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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