It's Time to Mandate Vaccines

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

34 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

That's idiotic. There are plenty of therapeutics that have scientific backing that people support. Hydrochloroquine got way out ahead on Twitter only to come back to earth when studies got done. Ivermectin has at least the same Twitter MD support at the moment. 

 

But go ahead and get on with your conspiracy of control thing. 

 

I hope Ivermectin turns out to be the miracle treatment we've all wanted. But I'll wait for some scientific consensus before lauding it as such, especially as a legion of Rogan-disciples (I like Joe, listen to his podcast BTW, but he's often batshit nuts) follow him down this road. 

 

You should try out your line that "vaccines don't work for the most part beyond 6 months" next time you see him. Should prompt a stellar misinformation discussion. 

Or, just tell the Nosey *****nutz to mind their business. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

40 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

The kid is a good kid and a good friend to my son, so I keep my mouth generally shut around them. 

I was careful to point out that it should be done in the nicest way one feels comfortable.  I have friends and family that would follow  the “go f yourself”  model.  I’m not generally in that category, but the point is the same.  
 

Tough when kids are involved though, to be sure. 
 

 

[Irv]

I am fully vaccinated.  Started feeling lousy last week.  Shrugged it off as a cold.  Nope.  Still felt lousy yesterday and got a test that came back positive. Sucks. I'm not dying or anything but do feel like crapola.   

[Orlando Tim]

55 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

You want to talk Israeli policy or science? I've already loaded you up on the science and continue to do so.

 

And you still have never, not once, backed up your line that vaccines don't work past 6 months for most people. 

Israel is making their policy based on the research that shows among the most vulnerable the efficacy wanes usually around 6 months. The US govt agrees which is why medicare is offering booster shots. If you want to argue another reason for the policy have at it. The lack of large studies is due to the fact that we are 6 months from most people getting their vaccines.

[SoCal Deek]

32 minutes ago, Irv said:

I am fully vaccinated.  Started feeling lousy last week.  Shrugged it off as a cold.  Nope.  Still felt lousy yesterday and got a test that came back positive. Sucks. I'm not dying or anything but do feel like crapola.   

Thanks for sharing. I wish more people did. Can you tell us more about your particular circumstances, habits, location, general health, age, etc? 

[Doc Brown]

32 minutes ago, Irv said:

I am fully vaccinated.  Started feeling lousy last week.  Shrugged it off as a cold.  Nope.  Still felt lousy yesterday and got a test that came back positive. Sucks. I'm not dying or anything but do feel like crapola.   

That's typical with breakthrough infections.  Glad you got the vaccine so you can recover in time for the Bills thrashing the Steelers.

[Big Blitz]

Good.  It's about time.  

 

 

 

It appears these kids know few fellow students across America that have been seriously ill.   

 

And this should be reassuring but.....power gonna power grab 

[Irv]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Thanks for sharing. I wish more people did. Can you tell us more about your particular circumstances, habits, location, general health, age, etc? 

Sure.  I’m white, age 57, married, two kids, financially stable, always have been in good physical shape.  Never spent a night in a hospital.  Never use any sick days from work although I do have a stressful jobs with 100+ employees.  Upstate NY location.   I had every COVID symptom but blew it off because I’m vaccinated.  Just thought I had a cold.  I was wrong. 

[SoCal Deek]

16 minutes ago, Irv said:

Sure.  I’m white, age 57, married, two kids, financially stable, always have been in good physical shape.  Never spent a night in a hospital.  Never use any sick days from work although I do have a stressful jobs with 100+ employees.  Upstate NY location.   I had every COVID symptom but blew it off because I’m vaccinated.  Just thought I had a cold.  I was wrong. 

Thanks again....but I was really looking for more information about your contact with others?  Office work in close indoor proximity?  Kids or family members with symptoms at home?  That sort of thing.  In other words....where do you think you might have contracted it?

[Big Blitz]

Israel is now the world's Covid hotspot despite leading jab charge

 

Israel has become the Covid capital of the world despite leading the charge on vaccines, in a clear warning sign that Britain, the US and other highly-immunised nations are still vulnerable to another wave.

 

Stats compiled by Oxford University-backed research team Our World in Data shows there were a record 1,892 Covid cases per million people in Israel on Wednesday — nearly 0.2 per cent of the entire population in a single day.

 

For comparison, 522 people per million in the UK tested positive yesterday and the figure was closer to 595 in the US. It suggests protection gained from vaccines is starting to buckle in the face of the highly-transmissible Delta variant. 

 

While Israel is seeing record case numbers in its fourth wave, the jabs are still protecting against severe illness with Covid deaths running at about half of the level of its second wave, even though fatalities have risen sharply in the last month.

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9951117/Israel-worlds-Covid-hotspot-0-2-population-catching-yesterday.html

 

 

Seems that should be the headline but whatever more fear porn......

Edited September 2, 2021 by Big Blitz

[SectionC3]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

That's typical with breakthrough infections.  Glad you got the vaccine so you can recover in time for the Bills thrashing the Steelers.

Good point.  It’s how a vax is supposed to work.  Not in a hospital. 

[Big Blitz]

Covid ‘mu’ mutation is in nearly EVERY US state already as WHO warns latest ‘variant of interest’ may evade vaccines

 

 

A Covid variant known as B.1.621 or “Mu” is a stealthy mutation of the disease that some scientists say is already spreading in the US may be vaccine-resistant.

 

“Since its first identification in Colombia in January 2021, there have been a few sporadic reports of cases of the Mu variant, and some larger outbreaks have been reported from other countries in South America and in Europe,” according to an Aug. 31 weekly epidemiological update released by World Health Organization (WHO).

 

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3585054/covid-mu-mutation-in-us-state-evade-vaccines/

 

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I was careful to point out that it should be done in the nicest way one feels comfortable.  I have friends and family that would follow  the “go f yourself”  model.  I’m not generally in that category, but the point is the same.  
 

Tough when kids are involved though, to be sure. 
 

 

I generally try to be more diplomatic in normal life than here, and I have been clear that the mask mandate on the kids is absurd, so on topics I find important I have a big mouth.

[BillStime]

44 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I generally try to be more diplomatic in normal life than here, and I have been clear that the mask mandate on the kids is absurd, so on topics I find important I have a big mouth.

How’s Florida these days?

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

43 minutes ago, BillStime said:

How’s Florida these days?

 

 

It is the problem with growing so fast, it is difficult to keep hospital building up with the number of people moving here. The three closest hospitals to me do not have ICUs yet because they have to get clearance. This would be so much better if my governor had simply killed all the old people last year, or we simply did have freedoms. 

[BillStime]

15 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

It is the problem with growing so fast, it is difficult to keep hospital building up with the number of people moving here. The three closest hospitals to me do not have ICUs yet because they have to get clearance. This would be so much better if my governor had simply killed all the old people last year, or we simply did have freedoms. 

May the odds be ever in your favor

[Sundancer]

10 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Covid ‘mu’ mutation is in nearly EVERY US state already as WHO warns latest ‘variant of interest’ may evade vaccines

 

 

A Covid variant known as B.1.621 or “Mu” is a stealthy mutation of the disease that some scientists say is already spreading in the US may be vaccine-resistant.

 

“Since its first identification in Colombia in January 2021, there have been a few sporadic reports of cases of the Mu variant, and some larger outbreaks have been reported from other countries in South America and in Europe,” according to an Aug. 31 weekly epidemiological update released by World Health Organization (WHO).

 

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3585054/covid-mu-mutation-in-us-state-evade-vaccines/

 

 

 

 

The most fear-mongering of fear-spreaders runs here with a story on mu. 

 

Ever look at its prevelance vs delta? 

 

Nah, you wouldn't have done that little bit of thinking. 

 

Looking at Colombia's numbers? 

 

Nah.

 

Just here to spread bad info, your MO. 

Edited September 3, 2021 by Sundancer

[Irv]

4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Thanks again....but I was really looking for more information about your contact with others?  Office work in close indoor proximity?  Kids or family members with symptoms at home?  That sort of thing.  In other words....where do you think you might have contracted it?

I actually was in Alaska last week on a fishing trip with friends.  Have not been in my office in 19 months working from home. Home with teacher wife all summer. Grown kids off to college. I think I got it on the plane to Alaska. 

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

May the odds be ever in your favor

You are a small and weird dude- you live in a state who still has a higher per Capita death rate but seem to be celebrating our struggles. Us allowing people in is causing us issues, just like Hawaii, but I am still able to protect myself and am not worried.

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

You are a small and weird dude- you live in a state who still has a higher per Capita death rate but seem to be celebrating our struggles. Us allowing people in is causing us issues, just like Hawaii, but I am still able to protect myself and am not worried.

What state do I live in?