RobbRiddick Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I understand your point as a general point. Too many excuses, not enough personal accountability. But in this case, apparently Sherman's mental and personal struggles have been going on since February with various documentation, friends trying to help him, etc. Doesn't seem like an afterthought, and in fact, he didn't have an affair, beat his wife or kids etc etc. Perhaps you meant this as a general comment and not about Sherman in particular? Yeah, it was in reference to some of the comments I've read. I don't know the details about Sherman so can't comment on his particular case. I do know he was driving under the influence, which is something that really pisses me off. Just look at Reid's kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: While I have nothing but sympathy for anyone who is genuinely afflicted with a mental health disorder, it's also become a nice little sound bite for anyone in the public eye to stick in a press release two seconds after they get caught acting like a dick. Get caught having an affair? "I've been battling sex addiction for some time." Yeah, you, me and every other man on earth. Arrested for beating your kids? "I'm battling some personal demons and this time they got the better of me" They all sound like deviant priests who blame the temptation of satan for forcing their hand. At some point in life you have to just come out and admit you behaved like an ####### without the colorful crispy coating I admire your ability to discern who has genuine mental health issues and who is acting like a dick. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: I admire your ability to discern who has genuine mental health issues and who is acting like a dick. I don’t know if he’s trying discern who has true mental health issues. I think he makes a valid point that every misdeed is followed by an apology that includes a reference to mental health these days. I’m not sure why people can’t issue an apology without, “I’ve been struggling with ….” references. Address your mental health issues in private, and just apologize for your actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 42 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I don’t know if he’s trying discern who has true mental health issues. I think he makes a valid point that every misdeed is followed by an apology that includes a reference to mental health these days. I’m not sure why people can’t issue an apology without, “I’ve been struggling with ….” references. Address your mental health issues in private, and just apologize for your actions. I always had a problem with the "sex addiction" thing. Especially when Tiger Woods claimed that his legitimate mental health afflictions caused him to have sex with all those porn stars and other skanks. Give me a freaking break. You're a wealthy, famous man who enjoyed having sex with a lot of women and got away with it for a while. Almost an insult to others who suffer with legitimate mental health issues. But I digress.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Nothing more than an agent trying to spin the facts. I never listen to these comments until the vetted truth comes out. His camp will figure it out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Cathode ray terminal actually Perhaps I am in the minority here ? But feel awful he and his Family are living this. for whatever the affliction is or how it came to the forefront of his life. Mental Health. When it becomes degraded by disease or self inflicted is just a horrorshow for too many Folks. and it always affects Family who might well be innocent bystanders. cathode Ray tube, actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, SirAndrew said: I don’t know if he’s trying discern who has true mental health issues. I think he makes a valid point that every misdeed is followed by an apology that includes a reference to mental health these days. I’m not sure why people can’t issue an apology without, “I’ve been struggling with ….” references. Address your mental health issues in private, and just apologize for your actions. Even with mental health issues you will be held accountable, at least on some level. Don’t pretend like someone with mental health issues will not pay in one way or another if they did something wrong. Instead of jails theres long term psychiatric hospitals, nursing homes etc. I suppose that so and sos level of functionability is what determines the outcome, but don’t pretend that the Nicholas Cruz’s and the weirdo “Joker” mass shooter will be let off easy, they’re in medical prisons for life and they should be, but the ones who may have acted in a way like Sherman did, there will likely be stipulations upon his release. Court ordered therapy, medications, abstinence from alcohol, AA meetings etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Even with mental health issues you will be held accountable, at least on some level. Don’t pretend like someone with mental health issues will not pay in one way or another if they did something wrong. Instead of jails theres long term psychiatric hospitals, nursing homes etc. I suppose that so and sos level of functionability is what determines the outcome, but don’t pretend that the Nicholas Cruz’s and the weirdo “Joker” mass shooter will be let off easy, they’re in medical prisons for life and they should be, but the ones who may have acted in a way like Sherman did, there will likely be stipulations upon his release. Court ordered therapy, medications, abstinence from alcohol, AA meetings etc. It is weird that I feel the need to defend Sherman because he has so often appeared just barely sane but his illness is likely being made worse by his likely retirement, or at least greatly diminished role. You do not become as accomplished as he has been without dedicating yourself to the game and using force to make it happen. I hope this is the worst thing he ever does and he gets the help he needs because at this point he is likely to either go down that rabbit hole all the way unless he learns how to control his emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: It is weird that I feel the need to defend Sherman because he has so often appeared just barely sane but his illness is likely being made worse by his likely retirement, or at least greatly diminished role. You do not become as accomplished as he has been without dedicating yourself to the game and using force to make it happen. I hope this is the worst thing he ever does and he gets the help he needs because at this point he is likely to either go down that rabbit hole all the way unless he learns how to control his emotions. Yup. I admire you for not judging him. Some crimes are unforgivable, especially against children and also the shedding of innocent blood and those sort of atrocities, etc. What Sherman did was wrong, but once again, he’ll pay. There will likely be some sort of medications that he’ll be prescribed, which likely means he’ll be seeing a doctor for the rest of his life. Meaning there will also be therapy involved as well. Likely forever. To those who say that people with mental illness do not pay for their actions, what do you think the outcome would be for Sherman had he had no illness at all? A year in jail? With the kind of money he has, he may have just gotten probation and let off easy anyways. Mental illness actually hurts him here. Once again, this man will likely be seeing therapists and doctors for the rest of his life. Many players around the NFL have done much worst and after they serve their 6 game suspension, life goes on as it were before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Victory Formation said: Even with mental health issues you will be held accountable, at least on some level. Don’t pretend like someone with mental health issues will not pay in one way or another if they did something wrong. Instead of jails theres long term psychiatric hospitals, nursing homes etc. I suppose that so and sos level of functionability is what determines the outcome, but don’t pretend that the Nicholas Cruz’s and the weirdo “Joker” mass shooter will be let off easy, they’re in medical prisons for life and they should be, but the ones who may have acted in a way like Sherman did, there will likely be stipulations upon his release. Court ordered therapy, medications, abstinence from alcohol, AA meetings etc. I won’t claim that mental illness gets people out of things. I simply have an issue with people publicly acknowledging their mental health issues AFTER some type of anti social behavior. Statistics show that mentally ill people aren’t more likely to engage in violent behavior against others than those without mental illness. Can mental illness be responsible for violent outbursts ? Of course, but not every violent behavior must be caused by mental illness. It’s not right for me to judge others, I can’t say whose behaviors are caused by mental illness, but I don’t like it as a catch all for negative behavior. Society talks about erasing the stigma of mental illness, but every single violent act, or act of evil is possibly wrongly labeled as mental illness. I wish public figures wouldn’t feel the need to address mental illness when they attempt half hearted apologizes for acts such as domestic violence. I’ll never dismiss the possibility that someone struggles with mental illness, but I don’t see the need to include it in apologies. It’s more the idea of using it as an excuse, no matter how valid. People who truly can’t control their behavior exist, but most people can, and not every crime or act of evil is mental illness imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Royale with Cheese Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 hours ago, SirAndrew said: I won’t claim that mental illness gets people out of things. I simply have an issue with people publicly acknowledging their mental health issues AFTER some type of anti social behavior. Statistics show that mentally ill people aren’t more likely to engage in violent behavior against others than those without mental illness. Can mental illness be responsible for violent outbursts ? Of course, but not every violent behavior must be caused by mental illness. It’s not right for me to judge others, I can’t say whose behaviors are caused by mental illness, but I don’t like it as a catch all for negative behavior. Society talks about erasing the stigma of mental illness, but every single violent act, or act of evil is possibly wrongly labeled as mental illness. I wish public figures wouldn’t feel the need to address mental illness when they attempt half hearted apologizes for acts such as domestic violence. I’ll never dismiss the possibility that someone struggles with mental illness, but I don’t see the need to include it in apologies. It’s more the idea of using it as an excuse, no matter how valid. People who truly can’t control their behavior exist, but most people can, and not every crime or act of evil is mental illness imo. IMO, looking from the outside…. Sherman is a little depressed that he’s at the end of the road of his career, or it might be done and the alcohol brought out the rage. I’ve known angry drunks in the past so I’ve seen it first hand. I don’t think his is CTE or mental illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: IMO, looking from the outside…. Sherman is a little depressed that he’s at the end of the road of his career, or it might be done and the alcohol brought out the rage. I’ve known angry drunks in the past so I’ve seen it first hand. I don’t think his is CTE or mental illness. I think you might have contradicted yourself a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think you might have contradicted yourself a little. I think there’s a difference between clinically medically depressed and being down in the dumps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Richard Sherman, Richie Incognito and Antonio Brown walk into a bar….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, Beast said: Richard Sherman, Richie Incognito and Antonio Brown walk into a bar….. What's the punchline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I always had a problem with the "sex addiction" thing. Especially when Tiger Woods claimed that his legitimate mental health afflictions caused him to have sex with all those porn stars and other skanks. Give me a freaking break. You're a wealthy, famous man who enjoyed having sex with a lot of women and got away with it for a while. Almost an insult to others who suffer with legitimate mental health issues. But I digress.... Wait, you think tiger woods hooking up with random waffle house waitresses he just met, while married (to a super model not that it matters) with two kids, and a crap ton to lose if any of them went public is rational behavior? That seems similar to the standard on the road behavior you hear about when it comes to cheating athletes? Tiger Woods was making extremely poor and destructive choices around sex. Dude clearly had a very significant issue with compulsive sex. Edited July 19, 2021 by HardyBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: Wait, you think tiger woods hooking up with random waffle house waitresses he just met, while married (to a super model not that it matters) with two kids, and a crap ton to lose if any of them went public is rational behavior? That seems similar to the standard on the road behavior you hear about when it comes to cheating athletes? Tiger Woods was making extremely poor and destructive choices around sex. Dude clearly had a very significant issue with compulsive sex. Whatever happened to just being a dirtbag? Can’t that still be a thing, or do we have a mental disorder now for everyone who behaves like an #######? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Whatever happened to just being a dirtbag? Can’t that still be a thing, or do we have a mental disorder now for everyone who behaves like an #######? It can, but compulsive and destructive behavior you can't stop if you tried while knowing the potential consequences is not being a dirtbag, it's addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: It can, but compulsive and destructive behavior you can't stop if you tried while knowing the potential consequences is not being a dirtbag, it's addiction. So if I compulsively punch old ladies in the supermarket I’m addicted to punching old ladies? I suppose I should go to old lady punching rehab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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