Stank_Nasty Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 34 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Still waiting on Diggs (lock), Beasley (if they have a separate slot receiver ranking), Bass (shd get some votes) & Poyer / Hyde (shd get some votes). Oliver, another Olineman and a young DE (B, E or R) will get some votes next year. I highly doubt Bass gets any love until next year. He’s gotta string together a full season. And safeties already went. Both were left out of the top 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I like how Josh's only "con" is that he's sometimes too competitive and tries to make the best play. That's like the answer you give in an interview to "what is your biggest weakness?" Lol. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, stosh64 said: People actually pay to read espn? I'm pretty sure insider gets 'thrown in' with a lot of things.. like I think if you get that package that's disney/hulu/espn that you get insiders with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, The Wiz said: I'd venture to guess someone who doesn't like dogs and American flags and skull and crossbones on our Twitter profile pics. That is actually the first guy that came to mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Blainorama5 said: The fact there are multiple top 10 rankings says this is a well built team and those in the NFL agree. How many other years has that been the case? We need a blue chip player as a pass rusher. That is a missing piece of this team. 5 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: JA17 should be #1 I think coaches will rate. Rodgers, Brady, Wilson and may be Watson and Dak ahead of Josh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Oh how the trash cans have turned 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Oh how the trash cans have turned Lol, love it when the cookies crumbles that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 5 hours ago, stosh64 said: People actually pay to read espn? I got it free with verizon, it's actually better than I thought it was going to be, I don't know if I will keep it after the year is over but it is legitimately better than I thought it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 If execs think that much of Edmunds trade him now while his stock is high. Darius Leonard and a first would suffice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, MJS said: Announcers do usually talk about how good our safeties are, but yeah, they don't go on and on about it. Poyer actually is a pretty good hitter, in my opinion. I seem to remember Hyde having a huge hit on someone last year... anybody remember that? One of them ( Poyer, I think) knocked themselves out hitting Cam on the sideline in the second NE game. I have it DVRd and you can actually see his eyes are rolled back as he hits the ground . He got pulled into the tent . Edited July 13, 2021 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 We are approaching most overrated player in the league territory with Edmunds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Process said: We are approaching most overrated player in the league territory with Edmunds The players, coaches, and execs that view him as a top LB definitely don’t know more than the posters on TBD! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: I actually got a chuckle when looking at his highest and lowest ranks. Somebody actually pulled the trigger and had him #1 while others left him completely unranked. lol "Unranked" just means outside the top ten. If you had him as the 11th best LB in the league, you wouldn't rank him. So "completely" IMO greatly overstates how negative the act of not ranking him is. On the other hand, I can't understand anyone ranking him #1. He certainly was not better than everyone else in the league, even in the latter half of the year when healthy. IMO, top five is pushing it. I guess the ESPN thing is asking people to predict where these guys will be ranked next year rather than where they are now, so being a bit high or low on anybody is reasonable as you're guessing, you're predicting. 1 hour ago, Process said: We are approaching most overrated player in the league territory with Edmunds Nah, it's just that for some reason some Bills fans love to underrate him. Edited July 13, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: No WR , RBs , TEs yet Porter and Hyde did not make the safeties list.. and neither of them was honorable mention Minkah Fitzpatrick Justin Simmons Budda Baker Jamal Adams Harrison Smith Tyrann mathieu Kevin byard John Johnson III Derwin James Jr Jessie Bates III Honorable mentions Eddie Jackson Marcus maye Antoine Winfield Jr Landon Collins Darnell Savage Jr It's honestly a pretty fair top 10, those guys are ballers I don’t think Jamal Adams on this list is good. Poyer Hyde are both better than him. Byard also had a down year. With all the pro bowl snub articles for poyer I would’ve thought he got at least an honorable mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Process said: We are approaching most overrated player in the league territory with Edmunds Not even close. Zeke Elliott, Matt Judon, Jamal Adams, Andrus Peat, Marshon Lattimore, and Evan Engram off the top of my head. Edmunds didn't deserve a pro bowl nod this past season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 The Diggs snub is confusing. Edmunds is probably a bit over-rated; I would say he is honorable-mention level. He has great athletic tools and his moments; but when watching him every game, you get the feeling there is more there, he hasn't put it all together yet, there is room for more consistency and improvement--especially in his decision making. . . . And then I remember, "yeah, he is only 23." Time is on our side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, CSBill said: The Diggs snub is confusing. Edmunds is probably a bit over-rated; I would say he is honorable-mention level. He has great athletic tools and his moments; but when watching him every game, you get the feeling there is more there, he hasn't put it all together yet, there is room for more consistency and improvement--especially in his decision making. . . . And then I remember, "yeah, he is only 23." Time is on our side. Wr’s weren’t ranked when I made the original post. I stated that in the post. I’ll update it when they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 17 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: I hate to be negative in an otherwise fun topic, but who the hell had Allen ranked 9th?! I know. I suppose you could go Mahommes, Rodgers, Brady, Wilson top 4. After that you would have to put guy like Watson, Stafford, Herbert, and I guess Ryan next. I can't see any way Allen is not top 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 All these types of lists are based on biased opinions, (just like our own opinions) there are no absolutes involved, Josh ranked at #9 is because many pundits are still hoping Josh regresses, (the I told you so group) and that it’s the Buffalo Bills after all… it’s gonna take a SB win and or a few more successful seasons for the stain of the drought years to fade, sad yet true. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 12 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: The players, coaches, and execs that view him as a top LB definitely don’t know more than the posters on TBD! I see in Edmunds all the shortcomings others here see in him - doesn't fill gaps, isn't a big hitter, plays the ball poorly on pass defense, etc., etc., but then I ask myself why he is playing every down. There is only one answer, and that is that McDermott and Frazier see him making a big contribution. So, I get it when some coach says that he's a nightmare to plan for. I think there are things going on on the field that most fans, including me, don't see or understand. In Edmunds' case, I've speculated before that it's the combination of his size and speed, that he simply covers more territory on pass defense because he is a step faster and an arm-length longer that other guys playing the middle of a complicated zone-based defense. He gets deep faster, he gets to the sideline faster, he closes on running backs faster than most linebackers. Am I saying he's a great run stopper? No. He still misreads running plays sometimes, and he isn't a great tackler. But I think what coaches see and we don't is that he gets into the vicinity of the play better and more often than most linebackers. He clogs the middle passing lanes better than most linebackers, because he's faster, taller, and longer. He's not a standout, highlight-reel star. I think what he is is a nearly perfect guy to put in the middle of a complex team defense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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