Chef Jim Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, Warcodered said: The effect being that you can't miss what you never had. They sure seem to be missing it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 With Biden in power, if we try to help, it will be another Bay of Pigs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 55 minutes ago, Tiberius said: If these people are given 5he vote, their natural rights, you think they would dismantle 5h3 socialist health care system? No. No more than Trump voters would give up socialist Medicare And Trump won the election too. This is a common misconception. Medicare is not socialist. Its is a one payer system for people over the age of 65. Part A, B, C, and D. Under a socialist system providers would work for the government. They do not work for the government in the US healthcare system model. Unlike national health care models in other countries. They are private practices or groups that service patients from other payers, commercial, Medicaid, private payer as well as accepting Medicare patients. Government Medicare generally covers 80% of charges and some people over 65 choose to pay for Medicare Advantage coverage out-of-pocket to cover their 20% patient responsibility amount. Some income qualifications may allow people over 65 to be covered by various State sponsored supplemental insurance. By definition if it was socialist it would be "free". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: This is a common misconception. Medicare is not socialist. Its is a one payer system for people over the age of 65. Part A, B, C, and D. Under a socialist system providers would work for the government. They do not work for the government in the US healthcare system model. Unlike national health care models in other countries. They are private practices or groups that service patients from other payers, commercial, Medicaid, private payer as well as accepting Medicare patients. Government Medicare generally covers 80% of charges and some people over 65 choose to pay for Medicare Advantage coverage out-of-pocket to cover their 20% patient responsibility amount. Some income qualifications may allow people over 65 to be covered by various State sponsored supplemental insurance. By definition if it was socialist it would be "free". So quick question... has it been going bankrupt, and/or un sustainable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Prospector said: So quick question... has it been going bankrupt, and/or un sustainable? Going bankrupt? Technically the Federal government can not go bankrupt. Unsustainable? Probably. But they can just keep creating more money and devalue the dollar to death along with all our living standards. And they've been doing that for decades. The Federal government is in about a $28T ditch and counting. With annual budget deficits over $1T sure to be more this fiscal year and next. Currently taxes account for around 20% of the budget and the 80% is borrowed. That's why its so hilarious when they talk about raising taxes to fund programs. Making the rich pay their "fair share". It all sounds so good. If taxes funded everything we'd need to cut Federal spending by 3/4's. What Senator or Congress person is going to support that from either party? Add in a dozen or so States with unfunded pension funds to the tune of $100's of billions and the whole thing is a house of cards. The thing keeping the game going is the special status of the US dollar in the global financial system. When that shoe drops the shows over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) American media is total propaganda on Cuba...they simply refuse to say Cubans are protesting their Communist dictatorship- even when there are signs everywhere in the streets...Dems are also drawing their line in the sand, and it’s not very encouraging... Where have you gone, John F. Kennedy... Edited July 13, 2021 by JaCrispy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Looks like Cuban government is reacting like Trump to protests, calling them terrorists, etc. isn’t that what you do with anyone who disagrees with you? What a hypocrite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: American media is total propaganda on Cuba...they simply refuse to say Cubans are protesting their Communist dictatorship- even when there are signs everywhere in the streets...Dems are also drawing their line in the sand, and it’s not very encouraging... Where have you gone, John F. Kennedy... https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/11/americas/cuba-protests/index.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/12/world/americas/biden-cuba-protests.html https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/cubas-president-blames-discontent-us-sanctions-2021-07-12/ https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/12/biden-cuba-response-499400 https://thehill.com/policy/international/562642-protests-escalate-us-cuba-tensions https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuba-cracks-down-on-protests-amid-worst-economic-crisis-in-decades-11626108212 What a media blackout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: American media is total propaganda on Cuba...they simply refuse to say Cubans are protesting their Communist dictatorship- even when there are signs everywhere in the streets...Dems are also drawing their line in the sand, and it’s not very encouraging... Where have you gone, John F. Kennedy... Are they?... https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuba-protests-whats-happening-11626112390 Headline is "What is happening in Cuba? Protests Grow Against the Communist Regime" Just now, Warcodered said: What a media blackout. Making imaginary enemies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Are they?... https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuba-protests-whats-happening-11626112390 Headline is "What is happening in Cuba? Protests Grow Against the Communist Regime" Making imaginary enemies I heard they want some of them vaccines, not the Johnson and Johnson ones, they want the good ones!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/11/americas/cuba-protests/index.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/12/world/americas/biden-cuba-protests.html https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/cubas-president-blames-discontent-us-sanctions-2021-07-12/ https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/12/biden-cuba-response-499400 https://thehill.com/policy/international/562642-protests-escalate-us-cuba-tensions https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuba-cracks-down-on-protests-amid-worst-economic-crisis-in-decades-11626108212 What a media blackout. There seems to be a “blackout” of the word communism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, Chef Jim said: There seems to be a “blackout” of the word communism. Maybe they just gave people enough intellectual credit to realize that the Cuban government that they are protesting is Communist....clearly they were mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Are they?... https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuba-protests-whats-happening-11626112390 Headline is "What is happening in Cuba? Protests Grow Against the Communist Regime" Several of the links Warcodered posted didn’t mention the C word. Just now, Warcodered said: Maybe they just gave people enough intellectual credit to realize that the Cuban government that they are protesting is Communist....clearly they were mistaken. Yeah that’s it. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, Chef Jim said: Several of the links Warcodered posted didn’t mention the C word. Okay, gotcha. Definitely worth crying "wolf" about. We know how this goes. 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Maybe they just gave people enough intellectual credit to realize that the Cuban government that they are protesting is Communist....clearly they were mistaken. It needs to be spelled out. Maybe they need someone to yell it at them from a podium. That seems to get results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Okay, gotcha. Definitely worth crying "wolf" about. We know how this goes. I just think it’s quite interesting that the media fails to mention the main reason they are protesting. The Times, in its headline blames hunger not the cause of that hunger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Okay, gotcha. Definitely worth crying "wolf" about. We know how this goes. It needs to be spelled out. Maybe they need someone to yell it at them from a podium. That seems to get results. Maybe they could go out there way, make it the title of the article or something. 12 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Are they?... https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuba-protests-whats-happening-11626112390 Headline is "What is happening in Cuba? Protests Grow Against the Communist Regime" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Between yesterday and today, the focus is headlines. The right trigger words need to be in the headlines because no one's going to read the actual articles anyway. We're just getting dumber as a society and it's depressing. 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Maybe they could go out there way, make it the title of the article or something. That one doesn't count. We still need to rage over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Maybe they need someone to yell it at them from a podium. That seems to get results. We don’t need it. It’s called journalism. You know: “just the facts ma’am” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, Chef Jim said: We don’t need it. It’s called journalism. You know: “just the facts ma’am” If only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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