CorkScrewHill Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Only the first 20 minutes are related to KC vs Buffalo Feel Buffalo is the biggest threat to KC. Think the Bills coaching in particular is strong though out-coached in the two games last year. Main gap between the two organizations from their perspective is Mahommes vs Allen though the love Allen and think his continued growth could further level the playing field. If they weren't in the AFC they would love to root for the Bills .. they love the team. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Thanks for the warning. No need to watch if the consensus these guys came up with was qb play as the major difference.. They must read a lot of ESPN articles. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) Just thought I’d stop by and say I really like the Bills too. And as a member with over 80 mug of beer reactions that might be thread worthy. Edited June 25, 2021 by Bobby Hooks 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I would disagree that the largest gap is at QB. Allen was very close to Mahomes statistically last year and while I think Mahomes is better there are other positions with larger gaps. Particularly at TE. I think Kelce allows them to exploit defensive matchups that we cant because of his versatility. Beyond that their defensive line was much better than ours. Im not sure if you swap Mahomes and Allen last season the result of the AFC Champ would be different. 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Ok, read the title. Non biased, and from a KC fan perspective? im out. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, jletha said: I would disagree that the largest gap is at QB. Allen was very close to Mahomes statistically last year and while I think Mahomes is better there are other positions with larger gaps. Particularly at TE. I think Kelce allows them to exploit defensive matchups that we cant because of his versatility. Beyond that their defensive line was much better than ours. Im not sure if you swap Mahomes and Allen last season the result of the AFC Champ would be different. Not to mention Allen was 2nd in mvp voting. So… I agree, if there’s a big gap it’s Kelce vs. Knox. Not Allen vs. Mahomes. 7 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Just now, Bobby Hooks said: Not to mention Allen was 2nd in mvp voting. So… I agree, if there’s a big gap it’s Kelce vs. Knox. Not Allen vs. Mahomes. ^^^^^^ THIS! ^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Ref: "I told you the check cleared this morning and we weren't going to call PI, or Defensive Holding, and let your guys get away with a few cheap shots" 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusefan66214 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) Pat mahomes is a literal god to the people of Kansas City. He can do no wrong by them. Comparisons to any other QB are laughable and will get you assaulted if you say otherwise. I love living in KC but I get dumped on alot for being a proud Bills fan. I get mocked all the time for wearing my Allen jersey Edited June 25, 2021 by Cusefan66214 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Honestly, I thought the biggest gap last season between the Bills and Chiefs had little to do with the players and more with the coaching. Frasier and McDermott had pretty much the exact opposite game plan at stopping the Chiefs than I would have gone in with. I was fully expecting bracket coverage on Kelce and Hill forcing the Chiefs to find someone else to beat them but instead they tried playing their traditional zone man scheme that they run a lot of the time and that is not the way you are going to beat that team. It won't work because Mahomes is too goof off script and those guys will eventually find holes in the coverage and beat you for big plays. Happened the entire game and they never adjusted. I'm not saying what I was wanting to do would have worked, but it should have been tried since after the first couple of possessions it was obvious their scheme was not going to work. Through this poor defensive scheme, on top of a very lackluster offensive scheme that looked nothing like the offensive approach the team had used for most of the season, I truly believe that coaching was the biggest difference, not the players. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Not to mention Allen was 2nd in mvp voting. So… I agree, if there’s a big gap it’s Kelce vs. Knox. Not Allen vs. Mahomes. The biggest gaps were our offense had zero answers for the Chiefs pass rush and our defense could not even slow down Kelce. The passing game stalled and we had no run game or screen game to counter with. Mahomes found Kelce at will in both games that kept so many drives alive. 4 TDs in the two meetings last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 ***** the chiefs 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Biggest Gap is Coaching reid is a wizard strategist and McDermott is a meat and potatoes win with your soul and heart both have their pros and cons but up against each other… I will take the brain over the brawn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 The difference is they have the best TE and fastest WR in the league. And our Defense struggled somewhat last year. Mahomes is better than Allen, but not by much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 We lost the games at the line of scrimmage, both offensively and defensively. We could not run not adequately protect J Allen, he was under assault, their D Line totally outclassed our O Line. And our D Line was not match for their O Line. We saw what Mahomes can look like when he doesn't have great protection, look at the Super Bowl vs TB. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, H2o said: Ref: "I told you the check cleared this morning and we weren't going to call PI, or Defensive Holding, and let your guys get away with a few cheap shots" So what changed during the Super Bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Bobby Hooks said: Not to mention Allen was 2nd in mvp voting. So… I agree, if there’s a big gap it’s Kelce vs. Knox. Not Allen vs. Mahomes. Summarizing: better TE play, better "speed/burner" WR play, better run blocking, better DL pressure Observations from which I derive that: 1) TE Travis Kelce vs Buffalo zone D. Mahomes knew just how to manipulate the Bills zone D to find gaps, and Kelce knew how to fill those gaps and make catches. 2) "Cheetah" Hill vs Bills CB coverage 3) Chiefs running game and dink-n-dunk passing game - they could run it when they needed to - this was pretty much the story of in-season win 4) Bills inability to pressure the QB vs the 2020 standard KC OL (it was decimated during the SB with the LT out and 3 guys playing out of position) 5) Chiefs ability to stifle 3 injured WR with "sticky" press-man coverage 6) Chiefs ability to pressure the QB and limit the time the wideouts had to beat it 7) Bills lack of strong TE play and pass-catching RB play to force the Chiefs out of Dime 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: So what changed during the Super Bowl? 1) the Chiefs were playing without their LT, and did so by having 3 OLmen playing different positions. The Bucs arguably have a better pass rushing/pressuring DL than the Bills and combining that with KC having to play the JV on OL meant Mahomes was playing "run, Rabbit, run!" 2) for whatever reason, the referees were calling DPI and DH on the Chiefs DB. Theories on why this changed, abound 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Bobby Hooks said: Not to mention Allen was 2nd in mvp voting. So… I agree, if there’s a big gap it’s Kelce vs. Knox. Not Allen vs. Mahomes. 58 minutes ago, Kwai San said: ^^^^^^ THIS! ^^^^^^^^ NO! The big gap is our defensive lines. Our O-Line was torn to shreds and Josh Allen was under constant pressure. Patrick Mahomes had 5 days to get rid of the ball. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 The start of the season can’t come fast enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: We lost the games at the line of scrimmage, both offensively and defensively. We could not run not adequately protect J Allen, he was under assault, their D Line totally outclassed our O Line. And our D Line was not match for their O Line. We saw what Mahomes can look like when he doesn't have great protection, look at the Super Bowl vs TB. Our O-line got blown up on the interior all day. Chris Jones got penetration and Frank Clark won off the edge. Our rb's could barely even get out of the backfield. On defense, Hill and Kelce were uncoverable and burned us consistently. Mahomes wasn't 100% healthy, but our defensive line still rarely pressured him. While I like the idea of continuity, I really think we need to get at least one dominant interior offensive lineman in order to take our offense to the next level. The Chiefs got better by signing Thuney, Orlando Brown, Kyle Long, and drafting Creed Humphrey, while the Bills drafted a couple developmental tackles that probably won't see the field for a couple years. We have about 10 million in cap space and hopefully there is a top guard released over the summer. Edited June 25, 2021 by Allen2Diggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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