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10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

The best part is, after labelling  his post "Public Service Announcement",  this guy prints out one of the least intelligible screeds ever penned by a pro athlete:

 

"I'd rather die actually living" (vaccine may interfere with "Beasley-style" livin'?)

 

"I have family members who's days are numbered" (It's called natural selection, son)

 

"build up my immunity that way.  Eat better.  Drink water."  (he left out the bleach)

 

"I'll get to live freely........forever" (yeah, sure...why not?)

 

Gotta feel and hear the Pegula's collective cringing after seeing this.

 

Anyone's decision to take the vaccine is a personal one.  But why would this guy demonstrate his wacked out nature with this kind of publication?  Just don't get it if you don't want it. Why let your crazy out?

 

A real head scratcher.

 

Dude new album, no joke. You just provided half a dozen titles and more than enough lyrics. 

 

"Build up my immunity that way, eat better (ugh), I'll get to live freely....forever (what)"

 

followed by Cole jumping out of bush or something smeared in warpaint pointing to the sky

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Don’t blame him one bit.  

Why should anyone go along with the BS rules anymore?   If people had any self-respect at all they would simply stop complying with this crap. 

There is a protocol thread where Cole is being discussed but he probably deserves his own thread at this point.    Im getting pretty dang close to rooting for the Bills to cut him. I was alr

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2 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

 

Hey Capco,

 

I can't think of anything more personal than what you allow someone else to put into your body.

 

Cole Beasley should have no say in what you choose to put in your body and you should have a say in what Cole puts in his.  Ultimately, that how I see it.

 

I agree with you that vaccinations are a public health issue, but I don't believe that a public health concern trumps your right as an individual to say what happens to your body.  Remember that in this particular instance, we are talking about a vaccine being used under an emergency use authorization. The usual process to get FDA approval for a vaccine takes over a decade.  I looked at the data as we understand it today, and decided that getting the vaccine was the right choice for me.  It's not my place or the government's place to force this vaccine on someone who doesn't want it.

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.


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My favorite nephew is studying to become a minister and the discussions we have had concerning vaccinations has shown me just how sensative and personal it can get. My mostly science driven arguments are all for not with him.

 

I respect his beliefs.

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Just now, GoBills808 said:

Nobody is forcing anyone to get vaccinated.

 

The post I was responding to said  "Vaccination is a broader public health issue that goes beyond the individual." 

 

Thank you for your contribution.

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1 minute ago, Inigo Montoya said:

 

The post I was responding to said  "Vaccination is a broader public health issue that goes beyond the individual." 

 

Thank you for your contribution.

Which is correct, and has very little to do with your assertion that ‘it’s not my place or the government’s to force this vaccine on someone who doesn’t want it’.

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12 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Nobody is forcing anyone to get vaccinated.

 

That bit of nuance was lost on the Beasley clan...

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14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

43 out of 50 states disagree because you can be exempt from vaccine's in school because personal or religious beliefs

 

That's a hard majority

 

I can't wrap my head around the concept of a state "disagreeing", but allowing vaccine exemptions for personal or religious belief doesn't mean that those states disagree that "Vaccination is a broader public health issue that goes beyond the individual. "

 

To the contrary, I think public health officials in those states agree that vaccination is a broader public health issue that goes beyond the individual, but they also recognize that public health and religious freedom can be balanced provided the number of "opt outs" are small enough that herd immunity can accommodate them.  

 

It's also proven to be an issue because the exemptions are usually not random - they tend to cluster in a geographical area around a group of families that tend to have regular contact, and outbreaks have flared.  The number of states that allowed religious exemptions was larger, until outbreaks occurred in several of them:
https://gothamist.com/news/city-declares-public-health-emergency-as-measles-cases-spike-in-ultra-orthodox-neighborhoods

 

Nit: it's not 43 states that allow exemption for "personal" belief, that's a smaller number - 12 or 15.

 

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8 minutes ago, Figster said:

 

 

My favorite nephew is studying to become a minister and the discussions we have had concerning vaccinations has shown me just how sensative and personal it can get. My mostly science driven arguments are all for not with him.

 

I respect his beliefs.


And that’s all good. Beasley is not trying affect beliefs, he’s trying to change policy to suit both his comforts and beliefs. He’s being selfish, bottom line. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

That bit of nuance was lost on the Beasley clan...

I don’t think he’s that stupid. What he’s actually saying is that he refuses to be even slightly inconvenienced.

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13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I can't wrap my head around the concept of a state "disagreeing", but allowing vaccine exemptions for personal or religious belief doesn't mean that those states disagree that "Vaccination is a broader public health issue that goes beyond the individual. "

 

To the contrary, I think public health officials in those states agree that vaccination is a broader public health issue that goes beyond the individual, but they also recognize that public health and religious freedom can be balanced provided the number of "opt outs" are small enough that herd immunity can accommodate them.  

 

It's also proven to be an issue because the exemptions are usually not random - they tend to cluster in a geographical area around a group of families that tend to have regular contact, and outbreaks have flared.  The number of states that allowed religious exemptions was larger, until outbreaks occurred in several of them:
https://gothamist.com/news/city-declares-public-health-emergency-as-measles-cases-spike-in-ultra-orthodox-neighborhoods

 

Nit: it's not 43 states that allow exemption for "personal" belief, that's a smaller number - 12 or 15.

 

I said religious or philosophical. Or

 

I wasn't wrong

 

And nobody can stop you from saying I'm a Scientologist and I'm not getting my kid vaccinated

 

My point was sure it's a public health issue but it's doesn't mean they can force vaccinate everyone who doesn't want it.. there's a lot of avenues in this country

 

There's definitely unvaccinated kids in New York who are homeschooled.. now I'm not sitting here saying I'm anti polio vaccine.. I'm not 

 

But if you want to be a dumb parent that chooses that I'm not going to stop you

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26 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

My link is posted

 

And it's not hard to get it. You can't get it in New York but it's not hard to get it in the States you can 

 

It's called philosophical exemption for reason. If it's against your philosophies you can't be forced to take it

 

Same with religion. Just need to say it's against your religion

 

The requirements vary a bit more than that, @Buffalo716.  In the 12 or 14 or whatever states that allow philosophical exemption, you're correct.

 

In some of the other states, you have to demonstrate that you're a practicing member of a religion that absolutely objects to vaccines, such as Christian Scientists or groups that believe in faith healing.

 

That's a small point, I know, but the point is in most states, it's more than "it's against my philosophies" "OK"

 

Force isn't the issue; if you want your children to attend daycare or public school, then vaccination is mandatory (with very limited exceptions).

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37 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

ok explain it cause all i read is what was in the OP. it pretty clearly states that he wants to make a "personal choice" on his health in several different ways and is uncompromised in that choice regardless of what happens career or healthwise.

 

what did i miss?

 

You missed the whole thing where he said he won't follow the NFL Covid protocols put in place even if he has to retire. 

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12 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Which is correct, and has very little to do with your assertion that ‘it’s not my place or the government’s to force this vaccine on someone who doesn’t want it’.

 

 

You deliberately take things out of context and argue just to argue.

 

You are the first poster in over 3 years on this website that I've decided to block.  You're not worth the aggravation.

 

Cheers

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The requirements vary a bit more than that, @Buffalo716.  In the 12 or 14 or whatever states that allow philosophical exemption, you're correct.

 

In some of the other states, you have to demonstrate that you're a practicing member of a religion that absolutely objects to vaccines, such as Christian Scientists or groups that believe in faith healing.

 

That's a small point, I know.


 Which is what I asked him as well. And citing X States vs. Y States means less than nothing to me. Show actual population polls then maybe I’d consider it.

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9 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Why doesn’t Cole just sit and talk to (read: listen to) Tommy Sweeney for two hours instead of being on Twitter. 

God's will?

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21 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

 

The post I was responding to said  "Vaccination is a broader public health issue that goes beyond the individual." 

 

Thank you for your contribution.

 

Both can be true, correct?  One can simultaneously recognize that vaccination is a broader public health issue that goes beyond the individual, AND not "force" people to be vaccinated?

 

2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


 Which is what I asked him as well. And citing X States vs. Y States means less than nothing to me. Show actual population polls then maybe I’d consider it.

 

This I don't understand.

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11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

There have been a number of outbreaks in skilled nursing facilities and care homes where the residents were 90% vaccinated, but the staff only ~50%.  The staff brought the infection in with them and objectively and factually infected the residents they cared for and other staff members (including some who were vaccinated).  People died who didn't need to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, now do all residents of the skilled nursing facilities in NY that died unnecessarily because someone threw all common sense out the window and decided that the correct course of action was to force those facilities into taking in and cross contaminating covid positive patients with the general population. 

 

The point is, there is a level of abject stupidity that defies common sense at play here. Ie "you must lock yourself in your room without visitors so you don't get sick inorder to destroy yourself out on the field on prime-time tv." 

 

They are creating a caste system and punishing anyone who dares to go against it. 

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1 minute ago, EC-Bills said:

God's will?

Good point. Tommy lost almost a year of development and ended up with a potentially serious complication because, ya know, god’s will. 

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

 

 

This I don't understand.


because saying “X number or states think this” is misleading. I’d rather see the number of people that ascribe to A (or B.)

 

states have populations ranging from what 40+ million vs 700K? That’s all i’m saying

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17 minutes ago, Pabstblueribbon said:

Okay, now do all residents of the skilled nursing facilities in NY that died unnecessarily because someone threw all common sense out the window and decided that the correct course of action was to force those facilities into taking in and cross contaminating covid positive patients with the general population. 

 

The point is, there is a level of abject stupidity that defies common sense at play here. Ie "you must lock yourself in your room without visitors so you don't get sick inorder to destroy yourself out on the field on prime-time tv." 

 

They are creating a caste system and punishing anyone who dares to go against it. 

 

Could you rewrite the first two lines in English please? 

 

Also, have you actually read the NFL's protocols for non vaccinated players?  There is no requirement to "lock yourself in your room without visitors".

I agree that they're creating a caste system with punishments for violations.  But there are health impacts of those who aren't vaccinated on those who are.  So I'm not sure how one could allow freedom of choice about vaccination without (effectively) creating a caste system by having different restrictions on unvaccinated folks.

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6 minutes ago, Pabstblueribbon said:

Okay, now do all residents of the skilled nursing facilities in NY that died unnecessarily because someone threw all common sense out the window and decided that the correct course of action was to force those facilities into taking in and cross contaminating covid positive patients with the general population. 

 

The point is, there is a level of abject stupidity that defies common sense at play here. Ie "you must lock yourself in your room without visitors so you don't get sick inorder to destroy yourself out on the field on prime-time tv." 

 

They are creating a caste system and punishing anyone who dares to go against it. 


i get you, but again, the primary factor in vaccine effectiveness is enough people getting it. Pushing against people pushing for more people getting vaccinated is ridiculous in my book. It’s what we have to do in order for all money, all those shots to mean something. I’m low risk but I got the shot asap. It wasn’t for me it was for the people around me.

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17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Could you rewrite the first two lines in English please? 

 

Also, have you actually read the NFL's protocols for non vaccinated players?  There is no requirement to "lock yourself in your room without visitors".

Sure! 

 

#1: its been well documented that in our state (NY), the Supreme Leader (the governor) defied all common sense and reason by ordering nursing homes to take in patients that were tested and confirmed positive for Covid-19. I bring this up because its an example of a case in which 99.9% of objective people would look at this and say "that's dumb". Similarly to the current state of affairs in which you have a governing body making idiotic decrees that defy all common sense with respect to a group of people whos job is to smash themselves up

 

#2. "

Per the memo, any player who is not fully vaccinated will continue to be subject to:

Daily testing, mask wearing (including in the team facility) and physical distancing

A quarantine if he has a high-risk exposure to someone with COVID-19

Significant restrictions when traveling, including required isolation in the team hotel and relegation to a separate team plane" .

 

Am I misinterpreting what "required isolation in the team hotel" means?

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