DrDawkinstein Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Ya Digg? said: It's social media, isn't the default always negative? An in-person press conference is social media now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: An in-person press conference is social media now? no but the reaction to Josh's answer is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, 716er said: Couldn't find anything on other QBs even being asked this by their local media. https://www.nfl.com/news/seahawks-qb-russell-wilson-ciara-to-host-hour-long-covid-19-vaccination-special https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021/04/21/kansas-city-chiefs-patrick-mahomes-andy-reid-covid-19-vaccinations/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/04/20/patrick-mahomes-says-he-got-vaccinated-protect-health-his-baby-daughter/ 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Except we all know that "not answering" IS in fact answering that you havent been vaccinated yet. Otherwise, he, like McD and the Pegulas and everyone else, would just come out and say he has been vaccinated because it isnt a big deal to those of us who get vaccinated. It's like "pleading the 5th". Sure, you havent technically answered, but we all know what that means. This was my first thought until I let it settle in a little more. The team has players publicly questioning getting vaccinated. Perhaps Josh doesn't want to throw those players under the bus and wants to keep those convos in house. I wouldn't read into Josh's answer at all as to clueing us in on whether or not Josh is specifically vaxxed. Edited May 25, 2021 by 716er 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, Ya Digg? said: no but the reaction to Josh's answer is Interpreting an answer from an in-person press conference is social media now? Still not following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Except we all know that "not answering" IS in fact answering that you havent been vaccinated yet. Otherwise, he, like McD and the Pegulas and everyone else, would just come out and say he has been vaccinated because it isnt a big deal to those of us who get vaccinated. It's like "pleading the 5th". Sure, you havent technically answered, but we all know what that means. I’m not a media figure but if I were, I’d make a point of answering “nunya bizness ” to keep from singling out my teammates who hadn’t been Im just a private goof and happy to say I’m vaxxed, but I can see that point 4 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: It's social media, isn't the default always negative? Im not aware of that convention. Must not be enough of a social media maven myself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Feel free to research and report back. IMHO McDermott is 100% right not to answer about specific players and it’s 100% Josh’s right to not answer for himself. 16 minutes ago, 716er said: Are other QBs/team leaders around the NFL are handling this in the same way or are they more open about their status? 100% Chiefs Media doesn’t need to ask Patty Mahomes. Vaccinated since April. but like he says, ‘it’s a personal decision.’ https://www.kmbc.com/article/kansas-city-chiefs-quarterback-patrick-mahomes-says-hes-taken-the-covid-19-vaccine-to-protect-daughter-sterling-skye/36165818# 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Interpreting an answer from an in-person press conference is social media now? Still not following. The medium in which the reaction is coming (here) is considered social media, so yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I’m not a media figure but if I were, I’d make a point of answering “nunya bizness ” to keep from singling out my teammates who hadn’t been Weak leadership by Josh on this. Especially when you have team activities at stake. Not to mention, you know, public health. He should be leading by example on this one like Wilson and Mahommes. 2 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: The medium in which the reaction is coming (here) is considered social media, so yes Ah, I see. There is big debate about whether or not old school message board posting is social media. Probably fit for another thread OTW, so I wont get into it here. 2 1 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Weak leadership by Josh on this. Especially when you have team activities at stake. Not to mention, you know, public health. He should be leading by example on this one like Wilson and Mahommes. I can’t call it weak leadership because I don’t know the dynamics inside the team 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 While I do have a strong opinion about anti vaxers that I am not going to share here to keep this civil, I am just thrilled he did not bring up the constitution this time. 1 1 1 2 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Weak leadership by Josh on this. Especially when you have team activities at stake. Not to mention, you know, public health. He should be leading by example on this one like Wilson and Mahommes. Ah, I see. There is big debate about whether or not old school message board posting is social media. Probably fit for another thread OTW, so I wont get into it here. Maybe Josh is trying to be a leader for his team, several of whom are not fully on board with vaccination, by playing mum. He’s a QB for the Bills. He isn’t your leader. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Maybe Josh is trying to be a leader for his team, several of whom are not fully on board with vaccination, by playing mum. He’s a QB for the Bills. He isn’t your leader. I agree. Wait what just happened? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I agree. Wait what just happened? Fever dream. Check your temp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, 716er said: This was my first thought until I let it settle in a little more. The team has players publicly questioning getting vaccinated. Perhaps Josh doesn't want to throw those players under the bus and wants to keep those convos in house. I wouldn't read into Josh's answer at all as to clueing us in on whether or not Josh is specifically vaxxed. Why arent those players who are publicly questioning it seen as bad team mates as Josh would be for saying he is vaccinated? Arent they throwing the vaccinated players under the bus? The same players who are doing the minimal needed to ensure team activities and player safety? Josh, and/or anyone else, should be countering that with the example and influence to get vaccinated. Even more so publicly, on the off chance they influence some fans and help us get back to normal attendance quicker. 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I can’t call it weak leadership because I don’t know the dynamics inside the team What could the dynamics inside the team be that would prevent him from confirming he's vaccinated just like McD did? He's going to hurt an anti-vaxxers feelings? Is that really where we are with this crap? 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: Maybe Josh is trying to be a leader for his team, several of whom are not fully on board with vaccination, by playing mum. He’s a QB for the Bills. He isn’t your leader. So he is placating bad team mates. How is that being a good leader? 2 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Why arent those players who are publicly questioning it seen as bad team mates as Josh would be for saying he is vaccinated? Arent they throwing the vaccinated players under the bus? The same players who are doing the minimal needed to ensure team activities and player safety? Josh, and/or anyone else, should be countering that with the example and influence to get vaccinated. Even more so publicly, on the off chance they influence some fans and help us get back to normal attendance quicker. What could the dynamics inside the team be that would prevent him from confirming he's vaccinated just like McD did? He's going to hurt an anti-vaxxers feelings? Is that really where we are with this crap? So he is placating bad team mates. How is that being a good leader? YOU think they’re bad. Maybe the Bills don’t think Beasley and Poyer are bad. Josh definitely doesn’t think Beasley is bad. Josh doesn’t care what you think. He’s not your leader. Edited May 25, 2021 by FireChans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: What could the dynamics inside the team be that would prevent him from confirming he's vaccinated just like McD did? He's going to hurt an anti-vaxxers feelings? Is that really where we are with this crap? There is evidence that one of his more prominent receivers is skeptical. He could be providing cover. Or, he could be expressing his own ambivalence/hesitancy. Impossible to say right now. The whole binary "two sides" fallacy we cling to in this country gives cover to a lot of people for a lot of things. Hopefully the players all come around in time and don't miss games unnecessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Why arent those players who are publicly questioning it seen as bad team mates as Josh would be for saying he is vaccinated? Arent they throwing the vaccinated players under the bus? No doubt about it. But not sure we can talk about that here - don't want to get too into the weeds in this thread Edited May 25, 2021 by 716er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, FireChans said: YOU think their bad. Maybe the Bills don’t think Beasley and Poyer are bad. Josh definitely doesn’t think Beasley is bad. Josh doesn’t care what you think. He’s not your leader. They are by definition bad team mates if they are putting their pErSoNaL cHoIcE above ensuring the team can resume normal activities AND putting other players at health risk. They are putting themselves ahead of what is best for the team. Therefore, bad team mates. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, H2o said: I wish they could just talk football and not have to dance all around questions they know Josh won't allow himself to be baited into. Josh brought it on himself. It's what the media does. I said back when he said that he'll have to deal with it all camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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