Buftex Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, SCBills said: We had fans in the stands against the Colts and Josh Allen was absolutely phenomenal sans one late fumble. The Baltimore game was straight up weather shenanigans. KC was a team failure, but it did seem like Josh struggled a bit with the call changes at the line due to crowd noise. That’s normal though.. probably just a bit more jarring not having dealt with it all season. Prior to this past year, his best game was arguably Thanksgiving Day in Dallas. No, I hear you...I didn't say it was a rational fear. But, over the season, I heard various NFL sideline reporters comment about how different it felt down on the field, with no crowd. Some even said it felt more like an inter-squad scrimmage at training camp, than a normal NFL game. Watching Inside the NFL every week, where they used NFL films highlights (no piped in crowd noise), it really was striking how quiet it sounds without the crowd. Different sport, but during the NHL playoffs last year, Bruins goaltender Tuka Rask opted out of the playoffs, saying he needed to be with his family, as the NHL was doing the bubble thing. He faced a lot of criticism from NHL pundits and fans...at one point, addressing the criticism he said something to the effect of "that wasn't real hockey anyways...it just doesn't mean anything in an empty arena" Other players admitted it was hard to get their adrenaline going like they would with fans in the stands. I know from my own experience playing various sports in school, I never performed as well when my father or brother showed up for a game. Silly I know (and I realize, being a pro athlete isn't the same as playing ball in Juniour high or high school) just saying I don't dismiss the notion that it could affect players both negatively and positively. It is just an element that wasn't really part of the 2020 season, for the most part. Edited May 14, 2021 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Yes, and our guys will adapt,😁👍 Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Murdock Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 This is one topic no one talks about is how will Josh handle fully attended loud road games? Road games last year were basically the same as home games which was a big advantage to newish players . Josh gets very excited sometimes, I can see him getting flustered. I predict a few road loses just based on the road game crowds Vs. last years mausoleums . It's a lot easier hitting Diggs on a seam pattern on the road when you were playing in virtual silence. I think the Bills scratch out 10/11 wins, get one wild card home game, and lose in the second round. You can't win on the road with a virtually non-existent running game. Having a solid running game helps control crowds as well...... GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Maybe, maybe not. So , It's possible ? That's what I am hearing right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, mushypeaches said: Trust the process The process should be coaching up for noise. Hand signals and able to manage NOISEY. I think Hometown Regular Fans affect the emotions for each Team. But Bills are most passionate and expert at knowing when to ramp it up>and Rivals have to Coach specifically for you Crazies in the stands when Bills play at Home. and on the Road has to be pretty awesome too for players to se you Folks all Bills-ed Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, dneveu said: I'm not worried about it. Allen's growth occured at every level of QB - Throwing accuracy, poise under pressure, pre and post snap reads. I don't see how fans will affect it. Allen did say that the crowd noise at the Arrowhead did have a big affect in that game , I can’t remember if he meant him or the entire offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 The joke before Allen was drafted was that he looked great in shorts aka practice and the games last year without fans were compared to a practice atmosphere. So hope he continues to disprove draft doubters No fans probably hurt the bills more than it helped. As a home bills crowd is a huge advantage to the team overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: The process should be coaching up for noise. Hand signals and able to manage NOISEY. I think Hometown Regular Fans affect the emotions for each Team. But Bills are most passionate and expert at knowing when to ramp it up>and Rivals have to Coach specifically for you Crazies in the stands when Bills play at Home. and on the Road has to be pretty awesome too for players to se you Folks all Bills-ed Up You think other fans don't know when to make noise, like when the other teams offense is trying to call out signals at the line of scrimmage? Come on. If the Bills win at home, it will be because of the fans. If they lose, the fans did not have an effect on the game. Signed, Most Bills fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 This will garner negative reactions, but the truth often does. Josh has struggled in the past with being too keyed up in front of home fans. Not only is this obvious, but he has also said so publicly. It is a legitimate concern for this season, so I hope he's taken action in the offseason to improve in the psychological areas as much as in the physical areas of his game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: This will garner negative reactions, but the truth often does. Josh has struggled in the past with being too keyed up in front of home fans. Not only is this obvious, but he has also said so publicly. It is a legitimate concern for this season, so I hope he's taken action in the offseason to improve in the psychological areas as much as in the physical areas of his game. It’s not the truth. It’s your paranoia. You were, “depressed” because you felt this coaching staff couldn’t take us anywhere. Instead of thinking your negative thoughts are, “truth”, why don’t you see how things play out a bit? Some posters truly try to see the worst in everything. You’re one of them. It’s not reality. It’s just you. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 51 minutes ago, teef said: It’s not the truth. It’s your paranoia. You were, “depressed” because you felt this coaching staff couldn’t take us anywhere. Instead of thinking your negative thoughts are, “truth”, why don’t you see how things play out a bit? Some posters truly try to see the worst in everything. You’re one of them. It’s not reality. It’s just you. Josh Allen literally said he gets too keyed up. And the proof is in the pudding. So... unsure what your issue is. It's definitely not just me. How many other people in this thread brought up Josh's play? My post was very reasonable, but some people react negatively any time psychology is brought up. They also tend to react negatively to realism when it doesn't paint a rosy picture. And yes, I made an ill-advised post once, a post that, I suppose, forever invalidates anything else I ever say. What a thing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Buftex said: If I am being honest, for some reason, this is one of my bigger fears for this coming season, as far as the Bills are concerned. Of course we don't know...but last year was so (near) perfect during the regular season. I realize there are a lot of factors involved (including the fact that the Bills are just damn good), but the PTSD from drought era Bills still creeps in, now and then. They didn't play as well with a crowd...but they were also playing better teams. I am also hoping that having crowds back in the stadium won't affect Josh's play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 7 hours ago, major said: Reading this book (below). Got me thinking, will fans returning in mass to stadiums this season affect certain teams overall play? Last season was fascinating to watch with most stadiums being empty or near empty. Curious to see which teams play better or worse in normal setting. Do you feel fans returning will affect team play? this has to be fake. watching the bills is not possibly good for anyones health. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I agree Josh benefited from no fans, and one can hope with that calming music he listens to before games, etc. he’ll be comfortable with the success. The other excellent point is 9 + home games as we’ll be in the playoffs will definitely amp up our defense. The noise alone will be so deafening here, opposing defenses in OP will be on a silent count all year. Several years ago, I started flying up my boys for a game in September each year while my daughter hung out with my sisters and their daughters. They were surprised as they’ve been to so many Bucs games they told me how in tune Bills fans are with the game. In Tampa, there is definitely like most stadiums more noise when the defense is on the field, but my boys couldn’t believe how quiet OP is on offense and how much of a headache the loudness of the stadium when on defense. They always woke up on Monday morning when we were flying home to soar throats given all the screaming throughout the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 it won't be as quiet and easy for Bills offense on the road this year as it was last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Josh Allen literally said he gets too keyed up. And the proof is in the pudding. So... unsure what your issue is. It's definitely not just me. How many other people in this thread brought up Josh's play? My post was very reasonable, but some people react negatively any time psychology is brought up. They also tend to react negatively to realism when it doesn't paint a rosy picture. And yes, I made an ill-advised post once, a post that, I suppose, forever invalidates anything else I ever say. What a thing. Nah dude. You look for drama. anytime someone makes a comment along the lines of posters not being able to handle negativity because it’s “truth”, it’s drama town USA. Also, it’s not a truth at all. Edited May 14, 2021 by teef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 they hadn't won 13 games with fans in the stands the previous 28 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Josh Allen literally said he gets too keyed up. And the proof is in the pudding. So... unsure what your issue is. It's definitely not just me. How many other people in this thread brought up Josh's play? My post was very reasonable, but some people react negatively any time psychology is brought up. They also tend to react negatively to realism when it doesn't paint a rosy picture. And yes, I made an ill-advised post once, a post that, I suppose, forever invalidates anything else I ever say. What a thing. Josh is now going into his 4th year in the league. Two of those years had packed stadiums. Maybe Josh did get keyed up but he is a young veteran now who has gotten better every year. Fans or no fans I think Josh will continue to improve. He is also maturing as a player (one would assume) so he should do a better job keeping his emotions in check to the point where it doesn't hurt the team. Everything you hear or read about Josh from coaches and teammates is all positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 One thing I heard past year is that Josh would listen to hype music the first two years before a game and last year he switched to more mellow music pregame. I think that is a good sign for when crowds return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 14 hours ago, Putin said: Allen did say that the crowd noise at the Arrowhead did have a big affect in that game , I can’t remember if he meant him or the entire offense I personally think Clark and Jones had more of an effect than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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