aristocrat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Ok, but how did Russia benefit from it if that's what you believe. GIve me specifics of gains they made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Ok, but how did Russia benefit from it if that's what you believe. GIve me specifics of gains they made. Since you refuse to do any research on your own... here you go: Tumult at home, ailing alliances abroad: Why Trump’s America has been a ‘gift’ to Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Since you refuse to do any research on your own... here you go: Tumult at home, ailing alliances abroad: Why Trump’s America has been a ‘gift’ to Putin well that's behind a paywall. But yes russia gains by us being divided as a country. but they do this in any election and they do it at any time. to say it's specific to trump is just naive. russia is more of a troll...just more of a troll that doesn't really have a whole lot of power outside their immediate borders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, aristocrat said: well that's behind a paywall. But yes russia gains by us being divided as a country. but they do this in any election and they do it at any time. to say it's specific to trump is just naive. russia is more of a troll...just more of a troll that doesn't really have a whole lot of power outside their immediate borders. Their growing alliance with China makes for a pretty powerful opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Their growing alliance with China makes for a pretty powerful opponent. This is a good point and to me it reeks of desperation to stay relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 As I mentioned in another thread, Joey is saying that he doesn't believe Putin had anything to do with the pipeline hack. Yeah, Joey's gonna be real tough on Putin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 48 minutes ago, aristocrat said: what exactly did russia gain from all this? Their goal has always been to divide the democratic nations. Trump did a good job of that. You know Russia is a petrol state, right? The Dems Green Energy plans are a death threat to them. I know, you don't believe any of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Their goal has always been to divide the democratic nations. Trump did a good job of that. You know Russia is a petrol state, right? The Dems Green Energy plans are a death threat to them. I know, you don't believe any of this You think Trump was the one dividing the country? You can't be that naive. A several year investigation that found no collusion between Trump and Russia didn't exactly unite us. Media claiming each day they found a new smoking gun and that gun was mysteriously never found. That's what divided us. The dems also killed the pipeline which could have helped us gain more energy independence to go along with a green energy plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: You think Trump was the one dividing the country? You can't be that naive. A several year investigation that found no collusion between Trump and Russia didn't exactly unite us. Media claiming each day they found a new smoking gun and that gun was mysteriously never found. That's what divided us. The dems also killed the pipeline which could have helped us gain more energy independence to go along with a green energy plan. Let's just see that fully unreacted Mueller Report... oh, and I can't wait to see the output from this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Let's just see that fully unreacted Mueller Report... oh, and I can't wait to see the output from this: neat. still doesn't prove collusion. that is what truly matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said: You think Trump was the one dividing the country? You can't be that naive. A several year investigation that found no collusion between Trump and Russia didn't exactly unite us. Media claiming each day they found a new smoking gun and that gun was mysteriously never found. That's what divided us. The dems also killed the pipeline which could have helped us gain more energy independence to go along with a green energy plan. Ya, Trump is a divider. That's his whole strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ya, Trump is a divider. That's his whole strategy so you're saying the democrats did nothing to divide? in order to take power from trump or turn the country against him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: neat. still doesn't prove collusion. that is what truly matters. Russian Dirt on Clinton? ‘I Love It,’ Donald Trump Jr. Said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, aristocrat said: so you're saying the democrats did nothing to divide? in order to take power from trump or turn the country against him? They appealed to a broad coalition of people. Trump, not so much. No "Send them back" from the Dems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Russian Dirt on Clinton? ‘I Love It,’ Donald Trump Jr. Said ok, so you're saying the democrats dont also try and find dirt on their political opponents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 38 minutes ago, Doc said: As I mentioned in another thread, Joey is saying that he doesn't believe Putin had anything to do with the pipeline hack. Yeah, Joey's gonna be real tough on Putin... Uh oh, now Jill is going to hold back his pudding cup tonight for answering questions he shouldn't have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, aristocrat said: ok, so you're saying the democrats dont also try and find dirt on their political opponents? They have very odd definitions of things: collusion, insurrection, Jim Crow... 1 minute ago, Unforgiven said: Uh oh, now Jill is going to hold back his pudding cup tonight for answering questions he shouldn't have... "The Five" is hilarious. Edited May 13, 2021 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said: ok, so you're saying the democrats dont also try and find dirt on their political opponents? ok, so what you're saying is that you're back peddling ... got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: ok, so what you're saying is that you're back peddling ... got it. so you’re saying the Democrats collude with foreign countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, aristocrat said: so you’re saying the Democrats collude with foreign countries? No. They do "oppostition research." Of course it's done by a foreigner using foreign disinformation...but it's certainly not "collusion." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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