Don Otreply Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Being that the majority of new NFL QBs don’t amount to much / are moved on from, the odds, frankly, are not in eithers favor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said: The exact same thing was said about Josh Allen. Just saying lol Yep, sure was. He might be just as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: I don't like Jones or Wilson. I am a Fields/Lance guy. I would have been very upset if the Pats wound up with Fields. I think Jones will probably have the better career when compared to Wilson, but he's going to have to be surrounded by a ton of talent to succeed. IMO he isn't better than Cam, and he likely never will be. To me, Jones is Matt Cassell/Andy Dalton level starter. I think he can definitely be successful, but he doesn't scare me. Maybe a Sam Bradford type ceiling. Wilson is not better than Darnold. I think he will get crushed and overwhelmed early in New York. I think it is a bad spot for that kid. Again, he doesn't scare me, but he could also wind up being a dynamic game breaking player. If they throw him in there right away, I think he gets ruined, quick. Fields is going to die in Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Dont know if they will bust but im not worried about them either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted May 1, 2021 Author Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Rigotz said: Is this a joke? Stidham played last year and was garbage any time he was in. Are we really giving participation trophies to 2nd and 3rd round picks? Nobody on that list is an above average quarterback. Period. San Francisco drafted a QB at #3 because the current guy isn’t good enough and he’s the best out of all of Belichick’s failures. How are you arguing any of this?? You said Bill Bellichick can't draft or develop Quarterbacks and I'm telling you that's BS. He drafted Brady, Garapollo, and a couple of decent back ups who went on to have 10+ year careers. And obviously they aren't all going to be great bc they're all late round picks, but for the round he drafted them in, most of them have churned out pretty decent careers. I don't care if u agree w/ me. A good back up QB for a late rounder is a good pick in my book. Bellichick had Brady so he had no need to draft anybody high up. If you can take a flyer on somebody like Matt Cassel (in the late 7th) and flip him into a late 1st to Kansas City then you're doing pretty well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) Mack Jones = AJ Macarron 2.0 Edited May 1, 2021 by CSBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 When you look back at the Patriots drafting of QBs over the last 25 years the only guy they really hit a home run with was Brady...a 6th round miracle that nobody saw coming. Now granted, they haven't needed to draft a QB and yet they still did at times. Like someone else mentioned, Jimmy G is the best they drafted and he will be replaced by Trey Lance in SF. The one thing we can all understand is that the Patriots will build such a good supporting cast around a QB... that a guy like Matt Cassel who was never a starter in College still managed to take NE to 10-5 when Brady went down for the season. The NE defense will be top 10 to 5. The offense will be stacked with talent enough to win ten games most seasons. Hence why the Bills are drafting for defense in 2021. Both QB's could easily bust and the Jets haven't found a good QB in forever! Not sold on Wilson until they build an offense around him, run game, O line, receivers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 To add..most Franchises do not follow up with the second coming to their Franchise QB. Saint didn't Pittsburgh doesn't have one Colts had to tank to get luck which he became injured Denver didn't w Elway..and waited awhile to get Manning The fins didn't after Marino..there are a host of other teams. BB does deserve some criticism for drafting but you guys are not doing your homework Cause he drafts decent defensive players..he sucks on the offensive end of the ball but again most Franchises do not draft their second coming.. Who knows if Love can play after Rodgers leaves... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 It's easy for Jones to look great when he's surrounded by the most talent in college. Wilson I question based on college completion he faced. Will see with both of them. Odds are in their favor of being busts, at least one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I dont think mac Jones will be a world beater but all he has to do is manage the game and the pats will still be pretty scary. Wilson has to carry the jets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 18 hours ago, HOUSE said: Jesus was no good at football, everybody knows that The way his his team is built there are always too many men on the field. 14 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Fields is going to die in Chicago Why do you say that? He looks to have the makings of a solid pro career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 😂 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblooded Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 18 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Rodgers was groomed in a good situation. Zach wilson is getting thrown to the wolves on a team with holes all over the place that couldve hit home runs at a ton of other positions with the number 2 overall pick. We did something similar with Josh I feel like but Josh works so hard on his game in the offseason and I just dont get that same vibe from Wilson. Thats based on nothing though so maybe he'll prove me wrong lol Huge BYU fan here. Also, big Bills fan here in WNY. One thing that many (even some BYU fans) don’t know is that Zach is an absolute football junkie. He eats, sleeps, and breathes football. He doesn’t have a ton of hobbies . . . he’s a home-body and you won’t find him hanging out with tons of friends. He will be studying the playbook, watching film, working on his footwork, and making throws and he won’t get tired of doing those things. The windfall of money won’t be an issue with him like it might be for some 20 year old kids. You won’t see him blowing through his money . . . he’s actually a low-maintenance kid but does have a ton of confidence. Outside of football and dealing with the speed of the NFL, some things that might be a challenge for him could be the shock factor of the big market and the huge spotlight. He’s already having to deal with NY media talking about his mom and her physical appearance. He was even asked about it on KFAN in NY and his response showed that he was clearly bothered by it and didn’t want to deal with it. So, he will have to deal with a lot of different press that he’s not used to dealing with. Now, will he be a bust? Very well could be, but I guarantee you that you will never hear anyone in the Jets organization say Zach didn’t give 100% or that he came unprepared to practice. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 IRT comments that Alabama plays a cupcake schedule. They played an SEC pure schedule this year due to COVID. Amazing accomplishments during an unprecedented year of challenges. Mac Jones has the talent to succeed in the NFL. I don’t think he’ll be a HOFer but I he’ll be serviceable. The BYU kid doesn’t impress me. I don’t think his body is ready for a full NFL season. The Jets haven’t shown an ability to take care of or develop QBs. 17 regular season games this year. Wilson won’t make it to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I heard someone call Zach Wilson “Private School Drew Locke” today and now I can’t stop thinking about it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Neither guy scares me, but I'm sure our AFC East brethren thought the same thing about Josh when he was drafted. But that's the great thing about having a top-5 QB who is only 24 years old. It doesn't much matter what our divisional rivals do. We are going to be in the playoffs annually for the next 10+ years, and the years where it really comes together, we'll be playing in conference championship games and Super Bowls. Basically, as long as Josh stays healthy, we don't need to worry. We just get to sit back, put our feet up, and enjoy the ride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 22 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: I don't like Jones or Wilson. I am a Fields/Lance guy. I would have been very upset if the Pats wound up with Fields. I think Jones will probably have the better career when compared to Wilson, but he's going to have to be surrounded by a ton of talent to succeed. IMO he isn't better than Cam, and he likely never will be. To me, Jones is Matt Cassell/Andy Dalton level starter. I think he can definitely be successful, but he doesn't scare me. Maybe a Sam Bradford type... I don’t disagree. However, Mac Jones has Matt Ryan's skillet, and is a qb not unlike the one who just left NE. His number's at 'bama are madden-like. Him with McDaniels worries me more, though I think Wilson has the more raw talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: 😂 Oh I thought that was Zach Wilson having a conversation with Cam in the present. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I’m strictly a Trevor Lawrence and Trey Lance guy. I’m kind of on the fence about Wilson, I mean, he could be good but I just don’t see it. He’s the one I’m most unsure about. I do not believe that Fields or Jones will be any good either. I also think that Lawrence will be good, but not a generational player. I think if the 49ers hang onto Jimmy Garoppolo for a few years until his contract runs out and they sit Lance on the bench and develop him, that would likely be quite a decent outcome for them long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 On 4/30/2021 at 2:15 PM, Warcodered said: I'd be more worried about Zach Wilson in a few years after he hits puberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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