dave mcbride Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Gregory Rousseau (Bills) Jerry Hughes (Indy) Vernon Butler (Carolina) Star Lotulelei (Carolina) Ed Oliver (Bills) That's a helluva lot of first rounders on the d-line. There are no first rounders on the o-line. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 reasons I like Rousseau: 1 - it rhymes with Gastineau, and Mark was a damn good player 2 - it ends with Seau, and Junior was a damn good player 3 - it rhymes with Larusso, and Daniel was damn good at karate "Gregory Rousseau is gonna play? Gregory Rousseau's gonna play!" 2 2 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 @AKC -- Makes me think of you and your old arguments about d-line equity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 This front office has definitely invested a ton of capital into the defensive line. Also, technically Espenesa is as well since he was our first pick 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Throw Edmunds and Tre in there and you have 7 1st Round picks on defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Daboll is likely showing this to Beane right now with various threats if he takes a corner in round 2 4 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Daboll is likely showing this to Beane right now with various threats if he takes a corner in round 2 10 minutes ago, H2o said: Throw Edmunds and Tre in there and you have 7 1st Round picks on defense. Other than Allen I don’t think there’s a first round pick on the whole offense - unless you want to count Diggs since we traded one away for him. Still, he was a 5th rounder originally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Daboll is likely showing this to Beane right now with various threats if he takes a corner in round 2 People act like the Packers slighted Rodgers by going heavy defense but is his offense that much worse than ours? We did a great job getting Allen help the past two years, but to only replace Brown with Sanders this off-season would be Green Bay like behavior. I was/am definitely expecting a playmaker when we’re asking Allen to beat teams consistently going 4 wide because our proven talent resides in pass pro and 4 wrs, with “hope” we can develop a running game/tight end play. Edited April 30, 2021 by SCBills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 44 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Gregory Rousseau (Bills) Jerry Hughes (Indy) Vernon Butler (Carolina) Star Lotulelei (Carolina) Ed Oliver (Bills) That's a helluva lot of first rounders on the d-line. There are no first rounders on the o-line. I don't know if anyone else caught the interview, was during the playoffs I think where Daboll (sounding a little testy) said "we have only one first round pick on offense" in response to a question. Now I think Beane most certainly counts Diggs as a first-round pick given that's what we gave up to get him, but the point stands. "To Whom Much is Given, Much is Expected" I think it's fair to say at this point our DL/D as a whole under-performed last season given the number of former first-rounders AND the amount of cap $$ invested in it. Time for all the top draft picks invested on DL (including AJ Epenesa last year, and Harrison Phillips) to step up, stand up, and deliver. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: 3 reasons I like Rousseau: 1 - it rhymes with Gastineau, and Mark was a damn good player 2 - it ends with Seau, and Junior was a damn good player 3 - it rhymes with Larusso, and Daniel was damn good at karate "Gregory Rousseau is gonna play? Gregory Rousseau's gonna play!" How about ROUUUSS rhymes with BRUUUUCE? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 That's a lot of 1st rounders for a position that still looks to need help. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, without a drought said: That's a lot of 1st rounders for a position that still looks to need help. Smaller, quicker (except for Star) is fine until it's not. We need more beef. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 41 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Gregory Rousseau (Bills) Jerry Hughes (Indy) Vernon Butler (Carolina) Star Lotulelei (Carolina) Ed Oliver (Bills) That's a helluva lot of first rounders on the d-line. There are no first rounders on the o-line. You are creating expectations with this post lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, SCBills said: People act like the Packers slighted Rodgers by going heavy defense but is his offense that much worse than ours? Would you rather defend Diggs*Beasley*Brown*Davis or Adams*Valdez-Scantling*Tonyan*Lazard ? I know my answer. Beasley came within one injury of breaking 1000 yds and in his last 2 seasons would have been #2 in yards on GB. Brown had >1000 yds last year and arguably would have had another 800+ yd season Green Bay has a long history of cheaping it at the receiver position and asking Rodgers to do a lot, with a little. They're also way overdue for an investment on OL. Quote We did a great job getting Allen help the past two years, but to only replace Brown with Sanders this off-season would be Green Bay like behavior. We're starting from a different place, except at TE. And Sanders is at a different level as a WR. His worst season of the last 3 years would make him the #2 receiver on GB. Quote I was/am definitely expecting a playmaker when we’re asking Allen to beat teams consistently going 4 wide because our proven talent resides in pass pro and 4 wrs, with “hope” we can develop a running game/tight end play. We'll see. I'd actually like to see a C/G taken high and developed as a Morse replacement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't know if anyone else caught the interview, was during the playoffs I think where Daboll (sounding a little testy) said "we have only one first round pick on offense" in response to a question. Now I think Beane most certainly counts Diggs as a first-round pick given that's what we gave up to get him, but the point stands. "To Whom Much is Given, Much is Expected" I think it's fair to say at this point our DL/D as a whole under-performed last season given the number of former first-rounders AND the amount of cap $$ invested in it. Time for all the top draft picks invested on DL (including Harrison Phillips) to step up, stand up, and deliver. You are on to something here . We have a huge cap commitment to this area of the team and frankly, the expected production is not there. I never looked at the draft pick investment and that is concerning to me as well, with a HC and GM who want pressure with the front 4, this isn't a good looking baby Edited April 30, 2021 by Reed83HOF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 43 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Gregory Rousseau (Bills) Jerry Hughes (Indy) Vernon Butler (Carolina) Star Lotulelei (Carolina) Ed Oliver (Bills) That's a helluva lot of first rounders on the d-line. There are no first rounders on the o-line. And yet, The Bills D-line does not strike terror into the hearts of opponents. Oliver needs to step up this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, SCBills said: People act like the Packers slighted Rodgers by going heavy defense but is his offense that much worse than ours? We did a great job getting Allen help the past two years, but to only replace Brown with Sanders this off-season would be Green Bay like behavior. I was/am definitely expecting a playmaker when we’re asking Allen to beat teams consistently going 4 wide because our proven talent resides in pass pro and 4 wrs, with “hope” we can develop a running game/tight end play. Rodgers would be hard pressed to find a team with a better WR1 than he has now not to mention they paid Aaron Jones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Would you rather defend Diggs*Beasley*Brown*Davis or Adams*Valdez-Scantling*Tonyan*Lazard ? I know my answer. Beasley came within one injury of breaking 1000 yds and in his last 2 seasons would have been #2 in yards on GB. Brown had >1000 yds last year and arguably would have had another 800+ yd season Green Bay has a long history of cheaping it at the receiver position and asking Rodgers to do a lot, with a little. They're also way overdue for an investment on OL. We're starting from a different place, except at TE. And Sanders is at a different level as a WR. His worst season of the last 3 years would make him the #2 receiver on GB. We'll see. I'd actually like to see a C/G taken high and developed as a Morse replacement. Id take our WR’s, and Tonyan is a threat we hope Knox can become, but Rodgers - like Allen - has a good OL, and unlike Allen, has a running game with a beast running back. If, and I certainly hope to be proven wrong tonight, but if we dont invest more in offense, I’m thinking Daboll and Allen could justifiably sideeye this off-season ..... and of course I don’t mean they’d be angry, but perhaps, mindful, that no real investment was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Oliver needs to step up this year. Your lips to God's ears. Time for little Ed to fish or cut bait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, SCBills said: People act like the Packers slighted Rodgers by going heavy defense but is his offense that much worse than ours? We did a great job getting Allen help the past two years, but to only replace Brown with Sanders this off-season would be Green Bay like behavior. I was/am definitely expecting a playmaker when we’re asking Allen to beat teams consistently going 4 wide because our proven talent resides in pass pro and 4 wrs, with “hope” we can develop a running game/tight end play. No trades, no Fa signings. Aaron Rodgers issues are from an organization run without an owner. The end of the day Kraft told Bill to stand down to Brady. To never draft a first rd skill player in Aarons career is shameful. Not making a move to increase the offense the past 2 years is shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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