Chandler#81 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 His rookie season was nothing short of sensational. Again, we were bereft of talent at QB. We had OJ and added Haven Moses, but it was the acquisition of Marlin ‘the Magician’ Briscoe and Shaw that suddenly made the offense lethal. Shaw wasn’t particularly accurate and he had very small hands. His passes all floated. But Moses and Briscoe could climb trees and out duel DBs for high passes. It was truly something to behold. Shaw was consensus Rookie of the Year and we thought we were gonna be great again. But HC Rauch quit and Ralph’s buddy Harvey Johnson -who never coached- became HC. By ‘72, Saban was back and committed to OJ & the running game. Briscoe had a falling out with Saban in Denver and wanted no part of him again, so he left for Miami. We drafted Joe Ferguson in the 3rd Round in ‘73 and he was starting by the 3rd game (a 9-7 win over the Jets in the inaugural regular season game at brand new Rich Stadium). By season’s end, Fergy was entrenched at QB and Shaw was traded to St. Louis for up & coming WR Bobby Moore -who would embrace Muslim and change his name before coming to Buffalo. Ahmad Rashad made an immediate impact along with JD Hill and the irrepressible Bobby Chandler#81 and Shaw disappeared into oblivion. There were loud rumors that Shaw said some racist things in the locker room before he was traded, but I don’t recall ever reading confirmation of this. He definitely had a falling out here though.. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I feel very comfortable with my prediction that we will not take anyone from San Diego State at #30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Southern_Bills said: First guy I thought of was John McCargo....what a nightmare. He was #26 though. That whole draft was a giant blunder. We could've and should've drafted Haloti Ngata over Whitner at 8 and then when we traded up I thought for sure we were going after Nick Mangold. The only redeeming thing from that draft we lucked into Kyle Williams that year. Would've been something if we pulled both Ngata and Williams in that draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, BringBackFlutie said: Right but your first post insinuates that the article is accurate but misleading. Your second post makes sense. Any Doug Flutie fan should have known that the USFL started in 1983 not 1975. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: His rookie season was nothing short of sensational. Again, we were bereft of talent at QB. We had OJ and added Haven Moses, but it was the acquisition of Marlin ‘the Magician’ Briscoe and Shaw that suddenly made the offense lethal. Shaw wasn’t particularly accurate and he had very small hands. His passes all floated. But Moses and Briscoe could climb trees and out duel DBs for high passes. It was truly something to behold. Shaw was consensus Rookie of the Year and we thought we were gonna be great again. But HC Rauch quit and Ralph’s buddy Harvey Johnson -who never coached- became HC. By ‘72, Saban was back and committed to OJ & the running game. Briscoe had a falling out with Saban in Denver and wanted no part of him again, so he left for Miami. We drafted Joe Ferguson in the 3rd Round in ‘73 and he was starting by the 3rd game (a 9-7 win over the Jets in the inaugural regular season game at brand new Rich Stadium). By season’s end, Fergy was entrenched at QB and Shaw was traded to St. Louis for up & coming WR Bobby Moore -who would embrace Muslim and change his name before coming to Buffalo. Ahmad Rashad made an immediate impact along with JD Hill and the irrepressible Bobby Chandler#81 and Shaw disappeared into oblivion. There were loud rumors that Shaw said some racist things in the locker room before he was traded, but I don’t recall ever reading confirmation of this. He definitely had a falling out here though.. I was only like 10 at that time, way too drunk to remember all those details. Thanks! Ahh, growing up in WNY! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 What about the last time we picked at 30 when there were at least 30 NFL teams? I could Google it...but c'mon, why do it the easy way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcdermott Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 His biggest contribution was being traded for Bobby Moore, a/k/a Ahmad Rashad. Of course, Ralph being Ralph back then, they screwed that up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 12 hours ago, Southern_Bills said: First guy I thought of was John McCargo....what a nightmare. He was #26 though. I was thinking Flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/nfl-draft-2021-last-time-teams-picked-current-draft-spot 30. Buffalo Bills, 1970: Dennis Shaw, QB, San Diego State Shaw was named the NFL’s Offensive Rookie of the Year in 1970 but he lasted just four total seasons in Buffalo with three of those coming as a starter. He was a backup in St. Louis for two seasons before taking his talents to the USFL and never returned to the NFL. He finished his NFL career with a 52.9% completion percentage, 35 passing touchdowns, and 68 interceptions. Shaw threw 46 interceptions across 24 starts in his first two NFL seasons. Before I opened the thread my guess was 1989, the year they lost in the AFC championship game to the Bengals. But maybe whomever lost the NFC championship game had a better record or did the Bills not have a 1st round pick that year resulting from the Biscuit trade?? OK looked it up, they would have had the 30th pick but both their 1st and 2nd round picks were traded to the Rams in the trade mentioned above. They also didn't have a 1st rounder the year prior in the 1988 draft. Throw in Greg Bell, that was a lot to give up for a non QB pick, not sure you'd see a trade like that today. Tunsil went for 2 firsts, but he was an established player. The Bills first draft pick that year, picked 30th in the 3rd round, turned out to be a guy named Don Beebe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 He was a "promising" player that never panned out. Not the first time for that! He broke some of Unitas' college passing records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 21 hours ago, HOUSE said: Shaw was killed by a shark in 1975 Farewell and adeiu to you’re fair Spanish ladies, farewell and adieu to the ladies of Spain.... Always a classic House. I think after that shark scene his legs hurt too. 😇🏈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 The last time the Bills lost the AFC Championship, their first pick in the draft was Thurman Thomas. Basically just confirmed Najee Harris to Buffalo at 30. You're welcome. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 19 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: His rookie season was nothing short of sensational. Again, we were bereft of talent at QB. We had OJ and added Haven Moses, but it was the acquisition of Marlin ‘the Magician’ Briscoe and Shaw that suddenly made the offense lethal. Shaw wasn’t particularly accurate and he had very small hands. His passes all floated. But Moses and Briscoe could climb trees and out duel DBs for high passes. It was truly something to behold. Shaw was consensus Rookie of the Year and we thought we were gonna be great again. But HC Rauch quit and Ralph’s buddy Harvey Johnson -who never coached- became HC. By ‘72, Saban was back and committed to OJ & the running game. Briscoe had a falling out with Saban in Denver and wanted no part of him again, so he left for Miami. We drafted Joe Ferguson in the 3rd Round in ‘73 and he was starting by the 3rd game (a 9-7 win over the Jets in the inaugural regular season game at brand new Rich Stadium). By season’s end, Fergy was entrenched at QB and Shaw was traded to St. Louis for up & coming WR Bobby Moore -who would embrace Muslim and change his name before coming to Buffalo. Ahmad Rashad made an immediate impact along with JD Hill and the irrepressible Bobby Chandler#81 and Shaw disappeared into oblivion. There were loud rumors that Shaw said some racist things in the locker room before he was traded, but I don’t recall ever reading confirmation of this. He definitely had a falling out here though.. I could have been Shaw16! I'd forgotten most of that history. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chandler#81 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 This video is crappier but longer and goes into detail on Shaw and the new future hope. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 5:35 PM, YoloinOhio said: https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/nfl-draft-2021-last-time-teams-picked-current-draft-spot 30. Buffalo Bills, 1970: Dennis Shaw, QB, San Diego State Shaw was named the NFL’s Offensive Rookie of the Year in 1970 but he lasted just four total seasons in Buffalo with three of those coming as a starter. He was a backup in St. Louis for two seasons before taking his talents to the USFL and never returned to the NFL. He finished his NFL career with a 52.9% completion percentage, 35 passing touchdowns, and 68 interceptions. Shaw threw 46 interceptions across 24 starts in his first two NFL seasons. much maligned, let's hope this year's guy fares better On 4/2/2021 at 6:37 PM, Rico said: I think it's because the Bills and Pats were both 4-10 in 1969, and they alternated 4th and 5th with every round. Pats must've traded their 2nd round pick though. http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/years/1970 Belichick loves draft day trades; everyone knows this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 (edited) I’ve told this story before. I was working in Southern California in the early 1980s with a local small City Recreation Department and ran into Dennis Shaw. He’d gone from NFL rookie of the year to a summer recreation leader. I couldn’t believe it. Edited April 4, 2021 by SoCal Deek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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