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5 minutes ago, PRBills said:

I don’t remember their exact ranking, but I believe 2018 and 2019 our defense was top 10 in the nfl. In my opinion 2020 was a fluke year and we should see a much improved unit on the field in 2021. 
 

we were not prepared for the loss of star in the middle and our line was just way to small to take care of business. Im not sure that people truly realized the value of Star Lotulelei. Is he a super star? No, but he did his job eating the double blocks which opened up our other guys to do their jobs efficiently. Hopefully in the future we will be better prepared with a serviceable back-up DT in case injury happens.

 

so I guess i do not have the same fear that you have. I am confident in our scheme as long as we have the correct personel to plug and play 

I guess I would just feel a lot better if McD handed over those duties to a “proven” coordinator and scheme, and I hope it happens sooner than later or I fear we’ll all be having these same discussions next offseason.

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5 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Is Jarran Reed really that good that we should be panicking over the move? He is a solid run defender but that's about it. It wouldn't have made any sense for us to sign him.

Two years ago, he was a terror.  I remember watching film on Frank Clark and Reed kept popping on the screen, causing havoc all over the field.  I'm not sure what's happened to him since then.

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4 hours ago, Augie said:

 

No worries! We will snag an OG in the 5th round who goes All Pro as a rookie, the balance will shift! Have faith! We can run for 250 yards any game we want. 

 

 

 

Maybe. 

We actually already did. Just that Beane traded him to the Browns (I am talking about Wyatt Teller). Can we get lucky twice?

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Didn't the Teller trade somehow get us Diggs? Google is telling me that one of the picks was later flipped for Diggs so yes. Got to break some eggs to make some better eggs or something.

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5 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

KC just lost their starting LT and RT. In exchange they got a guard and a DT. They aren't "really going for it." Their moves at best amount to them treading water too. I think the Bills can beat them right now if Allen plays better and we have a better defensive game plan. Yeah pass rush would have helped us beat them, but so would a game plan that doesn't leave Kelce wide open within half a second. Jarran Reed wouldn't have made a difference in the AFC Championship last year. Neither would any pass rusher we could have conceivably signed this offseason. We need to figure out how to cover TEs and add some speed on offense in the draft.

The Chiefs had talks recently with Russell Okung I guess there just waiting for him to be 100% healthy before they sign him . There's also the draft were there's over 20 Olineman projected to go in top 3rds .  Andy Reid has a plan I'm thinking when it's all said and done there weakness last season will be a strength this coming yr. 

 

The Bills and Chiefs have 2 different philosophies of building as KC leans more towards the top heavy approach and the Bills like to build there team with depth in mind. The problem with the way we build is when u get in deep playoffs the team across from u like the Chiefs will beat u with more talented players like we seen last season. Building for depth will get u a ton of victories in regular season but won't get u where you want to be the Superbowl unless u have some difference making talent . 

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7 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Chiefs are building the interior OL and DL. Bills have not improved these areas. Not good.

They're hoping development is the improvement. I just don't see it happening.

He’s a first round bust that’s why he’s gone no loss at all he barely cracks PFFs top 90 

Just now, BillsFan1988 said:

The Chiefs had talks recently with Russell Okung I guess there just waiting for him to be 100% healthy before they sign him . There's also the draft were there's over 20 Olineman projected to go in top 3rds .  Andy Reid has a plan I'm thinking when it's all said and done there weakness last season will be a strength this coming yr. 

 

The Bills and Chiefs have 2 different philosophies of building as KC leans more towards the top heavy approach and the Bills like to build there team with depth in mind. The problem with the way we build is when u get in deep playoffs the team across from u like the Chiefs will beat u with more talented players like we seen last season. Building for depth will get u a ton of victories in regular season but won't get u where you want to be the Superbowl unless u have some difference making talent . 

Yeh as we saw what happened in the super bowl when their two starters got hurt at tackle and they had no one behind them they where blown out 

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3 hours ago, The Governor said:

I guess I would just feel a lot better if McD handed over those duties to a “proven” coordinator and scheme, and I hope it happens sooner than later or I fear we’ll all be having these same discussions next offseason.

 

Err... he has a proven coordinator and scheme. 

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7 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Looks like making it to the AFC Championship game is the best we will do again.  Never gonna learn geeeezzzzz.

 

 

Talk about "never gonna learn" ...

 

Thinking you've identified our team's ceiling that year ... in March ... is a "geeeezzzzz" indeed.

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6 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:


good question.  The following are just my own thoughts on what they will do.

 

they tried to get Trent Williams and missed.

 

I think they would love to trade for Orlando Brown, but Baltimore doesn’t want to move him and if they did, probably not to KC.

 

a couple years ago the Eagles took OT Andy Dillard in the first round.  He has been supplanted by that huge rugby player the Eagles got.  I figure KC might trade for him.

 

KC may yet sign a a journeyman.  There are many out there still. (Not ideal)

 

KC may sign journeyman AND draft one high.  Deep OT draft.  We will see how it shakes out.  Wouldn’t surprise me if KC went up to get one.

 

same thing at Center.  It’s very up in the air (not good)

 

I think left tackle is almost certainly the pick at #31. It is the deepest tackle class in years, seriously, if there is a year to end up needing two tackles this is not a bad one to pick. Of course it would be less than idea to have rookies starting at both tackle spots, but if the Chiefs were in this position last offseason I think it would have been more difficult for them because last year I had the 4 obvious first round tackle who were all going to go early and then 3 second round tackles - two of whom Austin Jackson and the now seemingly finished Isaiah Wilson - were also off the board before KC picked. I have three first round tackles this year who will all be gone, plus a borderline guy who will be gone, but I then have 7 tackles with round two grades. Jalen Mayfield or Liam Eichenburg at #31 would be really solid picks and I think at least one of them will be there. 

 

If they picked up Russell Okung on a cheap deal, plus drafted Mayfield, and then got Lucas Niang back from his opt out... suddenly that tackle group looks serviceable even if nobody would mistake it for the best in the league. Nobody would ever mistake Fisher as the best in the league either. 

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4 hours ago, The Governor said:

I guess I would just feel a lot better if McD handed over those duties to a “proven” coordinator and scheme, and I hope it happens sooner than later or I fear we’ll all be having these same discussions next offseason.

 

 

They don't have to. This already is a proven coordinator and scheme.

 

 

 

2018:  defense 2nd in yards allowed, 18th in points allowed

 

2019:  defense 3rd in yards allowed, 2nd in points allowed

 

2020:  the D certainly wasn't great, particularly at the beginning of the year. (In the last ten games, if their per game stats on points were pro-rated out to 16 games, they'd have been 8th in yards allowed per game and 5th in points allowed per game)

 

The D certainly wasn't great this year, but in the second half of the year they absolutely came around and started playing much better.

 

And I don't doubt we'll be having the same discussion next year. Some people were doubting this D even in 2019.

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6 hours ago, Rocket94 said:

Yes! We also need speed on the defensive side of the ball.

 

 

Fair point. Wouldn't be surprised to see us upgrading on speed at CB and maybe big nickel in the draft this year.

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7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Good post.  That does sum it up, though I'd call it 3 needs: 1) improve pressure on QB 2) improve run game (which I think means OL first and foremost) 3) speed. 

 

Whilst drooling over KC's "power moves", folks should keep in mind that KC has serious questionmarks at two of the key positions for the 5 who protect The Franchise. 

 

I'm not saying they won't sort it out later in FA, or through a trade or through the draft - but the point is at this point (as Zerovoltz and I have been discussing) they have two serious gaps there.

 

I guess my point is, perhaps we should wait through the rest of FA and the draft before freaking out "OMG KC is making power moves and we're treading water".  KC has made some improvements, but they've also got some serious ??s.

 

 

Perfect 3 addition. I agree 💯 

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8 hours ago, Rocket94 said:

I love this team, but I am just calling it how I see it. Some of us view things through a different lens, but I know what I saw during the Chiefs and the "Colts" Game. Sure, we are going to score a ton of points during the regular season, but teams are improving and on to us now. Not only do we need DE help, we also need secondary help, LB help and of course a running game and or scheme changes.


 

Who got better?  KC had a huge need at tackle and center.  They have missed out on tackle and center and way overpaid for a guard.  Guard was a position they already had depth at they signed 2 more (one being a guy out of football for 2+ years that was paid more than both of most teams starting guards).  
 

Now they sign a DT from one of the worst defenses in the NFL.  Will he be better on KC - yeah, but is he a difference maker - no I doubt it.  Plus if it move Chris Jones from the inside out on passing downs - I think their pass rush got worse.

 

The Chiefs to me are strong down the very center (minus center), but have gotten significantly weaker at the edges and Overall I think they have downgraded themselves at this point.

 

The Bucs (as they should brought everyone back - so they are the same minus any age concerns.  The Bills are the same way - address little flaws, but did not lose any pieces.

 

The Colts moved to Wentz - I am not sure that was an upgrade.  Baltimore’s defense has taken a major set of hits.  Miami has not improved - although the draft should help them.  NE has improved a few weapons, but until they settle on a QB - they still are not even as good as Miami.

 

Right now to me a few bad teams got better and most top teams got worse.  The Bills and Bucs stayed essentially the same.  What will be interesting to me is that the Chargers seemed poised to be better - especially with a new HC.  They will challenge KC and could give them some fits.

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7 hours ago, The Governor said:

Are you talking about the offense, defense, or both?

 

Scheme was my initial worry when we hired McD. I followed all of those Panthers teams when I lived there. The scheme is “soft.” Not only is the scheme soft, but this is the softest version of his traditionally soft defenses. I know deep down that it’s never going to be good enough. Then we bring in another guy in Frazier that’s always been known to get absolutely torched in any game that mattered throughout his long career.
 

I just can’t shake this feeling that I have about this defense. I’m sure they’re really nice guys but this scheme worries the hell out of me. Even if we get the perfect personnel, it still just won’t be good enough unless we score 45 points in a SB.

Can't say I agree.... McDs defense was pretty damn good throughout that SB season with the Panthers. Even in the SB they shut down the Broncos offense.... difference is they were stacked personnel wise.

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6 hours ago, Nelius said:

Didn't the Teller trade somehow get us Diggs? Google is telling me that one of the picks was later flipped for Diggs so yes. Got to break some eggs to make some better eggs or something.

Your fuzzy math doesn’t add up.  Are you trying to say that without trading Teller, the Diggs trade would not have happened?

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5 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said:

The Chiefs had talks recently with Russell Okung I guess there just waiting for him to be 100% healthy before they sign him . There's also the draft were there's over 20 Olineman projected to go in top 3rds .  Andy Reid has a plan I'm thinking when it's all said and done there weakness last season will be a strength this coming yr. 

 

The Bills and Chiefs have 2 different philosophies of building as KC leans more towards the top heavy approach and the Bills like to build there team with depth in mind. The problem with the way we build is when u get in deep playoffs the team across from u like the Chiefs will beat u with more talented players like we seen last season. Building for depth will get u a ton of victories in regular season but won't get u where you want to be the Superbowl unless u have some difference making talent . 

 

I hope Okung doesn't go to the Chiefs simply because he's one of the best follows on Twitter and I really don't want to have to root against him.  

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9 hours ago, The Governor said:

Are you talking about the offense, defense, or both?

 

Scheme was my initial worry when we hired McD. I followed all of those Panthers teams when I lived there. The scheme is “soft.” Not only is the scheme soft, but this is the softest version of his traditionally soft defenses. I know deep down that it’s never going to be good enough. Then we bring in another guy in Frazier that’s always been known to get absolutely torched in any game that mattered throughout his long career.
 

I just can’t shake this feeling that I have about this defense. I’m sure they’re really nice guys but this scheme worries the hell out of me. Even if we get the perfect personnel, it still just won’t be good enough unless we score 45 points in a SB.

 

I could not disagree more with this.

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14 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

Bills are going to need some sort of running game to stop teams from pinning their ears back and rushing Josh.

That exists already it's called Josh always avoids the first defender and burns you as he takes off scrambling for 10 yards a pop in those situations . Seriously though there is some validity to your concern too, and being able to run for balance at times can help for sure.

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2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Can't say I agree.... McDs defense was pretty damn good throughout that SB season with the Panthers. Even in the SB they shut down the Broncos offense.... difference is they were stacked personnel wise.

The Panthers were huge favorites in that game. Denver had quite possibly the worst offense to ever play in a SB that year. That was when Manning could only throw the ball about 10 yards downfield and it took an hour to get there.

 

The Panthers looked like world beaters in those first 2 playoff games. I remember thinking those were the most dominating victories I’d ever seen.

 

It didn’t end well.

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