section122 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, Virgil said: This has gotten close. I like it Do you think it is worth it/possible to narrow it down now that favorites have been established? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, costrovs said: Damn... Is it just me or have we been seeing an uptick in skinny players in the NFL?? Some of these players look like they have no muscles on their arms and legs.... I've seen high school football players with more muscle than some of these guys, jeez... edit- with those skinny a$$ arms and legs, I highly doubt he's gonna be able to tackle any RB that weighs more than 210lbs. Hes been doing a very good job tackling SEC RBs the last few years. He is a very good tackler. Let’s to put on around 10-15lbs and woth a 6’3 frame I can see him doing that... he has a similar frame to Levi Wallace. Tall and long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costrovs Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, wppete said: Hes been doing a very good job tackling SEC RBs the last few years. He is a very good tackler. Let’s to put on around 10-15lbs and woth a 6’3 frame I can see him doing that... he has a similar frame to Levi Wallace. Tall and long. I'm not really knocking his tackling ability because I haven't looked into him, but damn.. he's one skinny dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Lol. I was torn between JOK and Jalen Phillips, went with JOK cause getting an Edge later in the draft will be easier than getting a player like JOK. My vote made it an exact tie between the two! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, section122 said: Do you think it is worth it/possible to narrow it down now that favorites have been established? Just dropped it down to the top 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, costrovs said: I'm not really knocking his tackling ability because I haven't looked into him, but damn.. he's one skinny dude. he definitely is skinny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I'd say that in this scenario Jaelin Phillips would be the selection. They put big money into C Mitch Morse in FA 2 seasons ago who clearly had concussion issues, I'd say so far they're happy with him. I'm sure if they select him Phillips would have been checked out extensively by our medical staff. There is no way of telling if he'll have a complete career due to his injuries but you shouldn't pass on a player of his caliber if he passes all medical concerns by the staff, at 1 point he was a consensus top 10 pick so it's not about talent imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Harris. Second would be an ol or JOC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I don't hate passing on JOK with Cleveland. I think they need a middle linebacker not a hybrid will / nickel / dime. I think Nick Bolton makes a lot of sense there. It is just very early for Surratt for my money. I'd be surprised if he sneaks into round 1. In all seriousness, I want to thank you, @Virgil and so many others for sharing your knowledge and efforts this time of year. I don’t watch as much college football as many others, and I absolutely do not study it the way some others do. Even if I DID watch, I just know what jumps out at me. This is my time of year to get educated and I appreciate the efforts of those who study this stuff. I used to appreciate the input of @Kirby Jackson as well, but he’s lying low of late. . Edited March 29, 2021 by Augie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 @Virgil when will this poll be closed? The Chiefs are patiently waiting to make their pick. A little hint, the outcome of this poll will be the deciding factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: @Virgil when will this poll be closed? The Chiefs are patiently waiting to make their pick. A little hint, the outcome of this poll will be the deciding factor. The Chiefs can kick rocks. I’m not sure honestly. Usually there’s a clear cut winner by this point. I’ll say probably noon tomorrow 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I just don’t see what JOK upgrades. I get that he’s a unique talent. I get that McD likes to utilize a S/LB hybrid. I get the sense that people are terrified of TEs, which, eh? but Taron Johnson is no slouch. This is not a real need here. Phillips is the best pass rusher in this draft by a pretty significant margin. Not a tough decision from my perspective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Since it’s been narrowed down I’m going with JOK. Our offense is more than decent, our defense needs help. JOK seems like he’ll be a superstar, may be undersized but boy does he hit hard. I really did want to go Najee Harris, I love him but I just think that our defense needs it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 I updated it to a top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 25 minutes ago, glazeduck said: I just don’t see what JOK upgrades. I get that he’s a unique talent. I get that McD likes to utilize a S/LB hybrid. I get the sense that people are terrified of TEs, which, eh? but Taron Johnson is no slouch. This is not a real need here. Phillips is the best pass rusher in this draft by a pretty significant margin. Not a tough decision from my perspective... In Carolina, McD had Luke Keuchley and Thomas Davis coming off of monster 2014 seasons (Keuchly was an all-pro, Davis had a great season and was WPMOY). The Panthers selected S/LB hybrid Shaq Thompson with the 25th pick of the 2015 draft. Thompson played a hybrid safety LB/big nickel role for the Panthers, starting 14 games on their way to a 15-1 record and a SB appearance. Im not saying JOK would fill our biggest need, but I would say there’s a solid 60% chance we take him if he’s there at 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, whatdrought said: In Carolina, McD had Luke Keuchley and Thomas Davis coming off of monster 2014 seasons (Keuchly was an all-pro, Davis had a great season and was WPMOY). The Panthers selected S/LB hybrid Shaq Thompson with the 25th pick of the 2015 draft. Thompson played a hybrid safety LB/big nickel role for the Panthers, starting 14 games on their way to a 15-1 record and a SB appearance. Im not saying JOK would fill our biggest need, but I would say there’s a solid 60% chance we take him if he’s there at 30. Man what a great point. I may actually change my vote now. Dude is impressive I just didn’t think it was a need but as far as BPA you guys may be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, whatdrought said: In Carolina, McD had Luke Keuchley and Thomas Davis coming off of monster 2014 seasons (Keuchly was an all-pro, Davis had a great season and was WPMOY). The Panthers selected S/LB hybrid Shaq Thompson with the 25th pick of the 2015 draft. Thompson played a hybrid safety LB/big nickel role for the Panthers, starting 14 games on their way to a 15-1 record and a SB appearance. Im not saying JOK would fill our biggest need, but I would say there’s a solid 60% chance we take him if he’s there at 30. It’s actually kinda eerie how similar this situation is... they drafted Thompson and he then split snaps with none other than AJ Klein as a rookie.... 2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: Man what a great point. I may actually change my vote now. Dude is impressive I just didn’t think it was a need but as far as BPA you guys may be right It’s just impossible to say what McBeane see’s as a need. It could be that they have Edge as a higher need than Big nickel (which seems likely) but that JOK is a guy that they see as the missing piece who would open things up for them. Edited March 29, 2021 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: It’s actually kinda eerie how similar this situation is... they drafted Thompson and he then split snaps with none other than AJ Klein as a rookie.... It’s just impossible to say what McBeane see’s as a need. It could be that they have Edge as a higher need than Big nickel (which seems likely) but that JOK is a guy that they see as the missing piece who would open things up for them. I agree. I trust Beane to make the right call even though D line has been his Achilles heel thus far. Phillips and JOK are both special talents. Phillips fills a bigger need but his past retirement may be enough for Beane and company to take JOK instead. I’m ok with either even if I do like the upside of boogie basham 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Picked Harris. He may not be the best long term prospect but for a team ready to compete for a championship I think he makes the most sense here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 I dropped it to the top 3 to see if we can get a clear cut winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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