BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 I think Beane signs Clowney to a 1 year vet minimum nothing guaranteed type of contract. Maybe McD and Fraizer Can turn him around 🤷‍♂️? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I think Beane signs Clowney to a 1 year vet minimum nothing guaranteed type of contract. Maybe McD and Fraizer Can turn him around 🤷‍♂️? I definitely would like that.  Do you think they’re just trying to be patient and wait it out so that his price goes down? It just seems like crickets, even on interest, since we couldn’t get Watt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Draft, only draft. I may only open to Dunlap, and that's will be if they don't drat one.  Most here want an immediate impact player, I don't, all the movements so far have been to draft BPA in each round and develop them   1 minute ago, BillsFan619 said: I definitely would like that.  Do you think they’re just trying to be patient and wait it out so that his price goes down? It just seems like crickets, even on interest, since we couldn’t get Watt. Why people still so in love with Clowney, he never has reached the level most expect of him, and has been for his attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, poblano said: Draft, only draft. I may only open to Dunlap, and that's will be if they don't drat one.  Most here want an immediate impact player, I don't, all the movements so far have been to draft BPA in each round and develop them    Do you not want any of the remaining free agents because of price or do you not think they’re good enough to help out? 3 minutes ago, poblano said: Draft, only draft. I may only open to Dunlap, and that's will be if they don't drat one.  Most here want an immediate impact player, I don't, all the movements so far have been to draft BPA in each round and develop them    Why people still so in love with Clowney, he never has reached the level most expect of him, and has been for his attitude While I definitely could be wrong, maybe Clowney is one of those guys that you take a chance on to at least try and improve your pass rush.  The bills have been really good over the past few years in turning people around. Maybe they can do that with him too.  Just a thought. I know it’s risky though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 I'm pretty sure they're looking strongly at pass rusher's in the draft and that was likely always the plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: I'm pretty sure they're looking strongly at pass rusher's in the draft and that was likely always the plan Who do you like in the draft when it comes to pass rushers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: Do you not want any of the remaining free agents because of price or do you not think they’re good enough to help out? While I definitely could be wrong, maybe Clowney is one of those guys that you take a chance on to at least try and improve your pass rush.  The bills have been really good over the past few years in turning people around. Maybe they can do that with him too.  Just a thought. I know it’s risky though. I don't give Clowney a chance because i see in him an attitude problem that can't be solved even in Buffalo environment.  Only Dunlap, but by the way i'm looking to upgrade the lack of sacks i dont believe there is someone that can. (I clearly differentiate between sacks and pressure, Buffalo does the late at some level of success) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: Its really just Clowney and Dunlap at this point. Nothing else out there can really be considered an upgrade. This.  Drafting outside the top 10 is not getting us a game changing pass rusher so we need someone who can impact us this year. We need it now. Our window is now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: Who do you like in the draft when it comes to pass rushers? Only Basham if he falls to the 2nd round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, poblano said: I don't give Clowney a chance because i see in him an attitude problem that can't be solved even in Buffalo environment.  Only Dunlap, but by the way i'm looking to upgrade the lack of sacks i dont believe there is someone that can. (I clearly differentiate between sacks and pressure, Buffalo does the late at some level of success) Great back and forth.  Do you have your eye on anyone in the draft when it comes to pass rusher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Locomark said: This.  Drafting outside the top 10 is not getting us a game changing pass rusher so we need someone who can impact us this year. We need it now. Our window is now. Do you think they’re just being patient with one of these two to try and get the price down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 I think there will be an upside FA signing and a pick or two early in the draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, BaaadThingsMan said: I think there will be an upside FA signing and a pick or two early in the draft Who would you like to see them get with the remaining FAs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: Do you think they’re just being patient with one of these two to try and get the price down? Absolutely. With the covid market there will be signings in week 2 and 3 that will be really good players. Look at some of the guys who signed later last year and that was in a good money year. Some deal will get done around April 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Locomark said: Absolutely. With the covid market there will be signings in week 2 and 3 that will be really good players. Look at some of the guys who signed later last year and that was in a good money year. Some deal will get done around April 1. Would you rather get Dunlap, Clowney or someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: Who do you like in the draft when it comes to pass rushers?  I have no idea. I didn't watch a lick of college this year.  My hunch is based on Beane's comments, their actions in FA, cap space and my general feeling that big ticket pass rusher free agent tend not to live up to their contracts. Those contract often have big cap hits and lots of dead money making them very inflexible and Beane's MO has been flexible contracts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: Who would you like to see them get with the remaining FAs? Pickings are slim among the "big names" but I remember reading that Beane was looking at some guys who haven't been starters yet in their careers but may have some upside waiting to emerge. They named names but I don't remember them.  I'll trust Beane to sign one of those type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:  I have no idea. I didn't watch a lick of college this year.  My hunch is based on Beane's comments, their actions in FA, cap space and my general feeling that big ticket pass rusher free agent tend not to live up to their contracts. Those contract often have big cap hits and lots of dead money making them very inflexible and Beane's MO has been flexible contracts. Good thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: Do you not want any of the remaining free agents because of price or do you not think they’re good enough to help out? While I definitely could be wrong, maybe Clowney is one of those guys that you take a chance on to at least try and improve your pass rush.  The bills have been really good over the past few years in turning people around. Maybe they can do that with him too.  Just a thought. I know it’s risky though. Put it this way, we paid Murphy $9 million to not dress last year. So you have to believe that we could get a ton out of Clowney’s skill set which is way better than that clown (pun intended) and than our rotational starter(s) there. At worst he gets moved around the line and becomes a chess piece for Frazier to get creative with. We need to generate pressure with 4 this year if we want to win it all. Personally I prefer Dunlop,  but would be OK with Clowney especially if he could be more than a 1 year performer at a decent price ( <9 ) Edited March 20, 2021 by Locomark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said: Pickings are slim among the "big names" but I remember reading that Beane was looking at some guys who haven't been starters yet in their careers but may have some upside waiting to emerge. They named names but I don't remember them.  I'll trust Beane to sign one of those type. That’d be interesting if they went that route. If they do, let’s hope for that diamond.  Yes, Beane definitely gets trust in my book too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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