FireChans Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said: I can follow up with the Patriots the year they beat ATL in the Super Bowl. Ebner, Mingo, King, Bolden, Slater were all primarily ST players. They spent around $6M again here. Yeah, I guess it was mostly the ST game, not TB12 and BB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Not sure how im connected to special teams but if they need a gunner, im there guy 😋 Skelton played special teams in HS. Obv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Bill Belichick, probably the best coach of all time, focuses a lot on special teams. In fact, most of the good coaches do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, NewEra said: Skelton played special teams in HS. Obv He was the best thats for sure, better than Mario anyway 😈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 For your sake, I really hope this is parody. Otherwise, this view is clueless and disturbing. Can you count the games that swung in our favor by Bojo’s & Bass’ kicks? Roberts returns? Endzone KO’s? Kick coverage? i’d venture we have more starters playing ‘teams’ than any other playoff team. Are you old enough to remember Steve Tasker? Lou Piccone? Steve Christie? Marv Levy??? Do you even understand football?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Yeah, I guess it was mostly the ST game, not TB12 and BB. It's all part of it. Is this really about Taiwan Jones and the crumbs he makes, or was there something else that bothered you? Paying a punter average money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I'll just put this back up again. The Bills are currently sitting at 24th on money spent on special teams. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/special/ 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Fans don’t appreciate special teams until their team has a crappy unit. Ask a Chargers fan how important ST are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: For your sake, I really hope this is parody. Otherwise, this view is clueless and disturbing. Can you count the games that swung in our favor by Bojo’s & Bass’ kicks? Roberts returns? Endzone KO’s? Kick coverage? i’d venture we have more starters playing ‘teams’ than any other playoff team. Are you old enough to remember Steve Tasker? Lou Piccone? Steve Christie? Marv Levy??? Do you even understand football?? Lol Bojo just walked so we could upgrade the punter position. Do you understand that ST is not as important as the offense or defense in the modern NFL? Do you still live in 1950? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, eSJayDee said: How old are you? You do know that the Bills made it to the SB 4 yrs in a row? Who was our most successful coach of all time? I'll give you a hint - he started as a ST coach. Granted, this was before the cap era, but the effort & emphasis was definitely there, and this was at a time w/ smaller rosters. Who lost the SB? The coach that got outcoached and the kicker that missed a makeable FG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I'm assuming he saw we re-signed Taiwan Jones and threw a sh-tfit because there's a Running Back in FA he likes and is now realizing that it's unlikely. Though he probably should have realized that we were always more likely to draft another one to replace Yeldon rather than spending valuable cap space on a vet to hop Singletary and Moss. True. Although I wouldn't be suprised if we don't draft an RB, and instead sign a cheap veteran post-draft. I think they'll only draft an RB if they think he's a difference maker. Otherwise it doesn't make a lot of sense to have 3 RBs on rookie deals, who are all roughly equally good. A vet min RB would bring experience to the RB room, which McDermott always wants, and financially would be about the same cost as a 3rd-rounder or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'll just put this back up again. The Bills are currently sitting at 24th on money spent on special teams. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/special/ Don’t confuse a good rant with facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, MJS said: It's all part of it. Is this really about Taiwan Jones and the crumbs he makes, or was there something else that bothered you? Paying a punter average money? It’s not just the money, it’s the roster spots. It’s losing out on young developing players for dedicated STers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'll just put this back up again. The Bills are currently sitting at 24th on money spent on special teams. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/special/ Thats because the have a 5th round kicker on a rookie deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yeah, I guess it was mostly the ST game, not TB12 and BB. Sweetheart... this is what you asked for in your initial post... Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? That right there is a direct quote from you when you started this thread. I provided you two recent examples (2018 and 2016 Super Bowl Champions) that met your criteria of teams as much (or more) money and effort to STers than the Bills do. I never made a claim that ST had more of an impact than Belichick or Brady... I simply provided facts to answer your question. Don't get defensive and deflect now that you look clueless. If you didn't want answer... you shouldn't have asked the question. Edited March 18, 2021 by JGMcD2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'll just put this back up again. The Bills are currently sitting at 24th on money spent on special teams. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/special/ Wait, are you telling me we aren’t spending enough on ST? I’m outraged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, JGMcD2 said: Sweetheart... this is what you asked for in your initial post... Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? That right there is a direct quote from you when you started this thread. I provided you two recent examples (2018 and 2016 Super Bowl Champions) that met your criteria of teams as much (or more) money and effort to STers than the Bills do. I never made a claim that ST had more of an impact than Belichick or Brady... I simply provided facts to answer your questions. Don't get defensive and deflect now that you look clueless. If you didn't want answer... you shouldn't have asked the question. You were right. But the Pats and Brady don’t count. For obvious reasons. Sweetheart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 The Bills contended last year while spending that much on special teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, FireChans said: You were right. But the Pats and Brady don’t count. For obvious reasons. Sweetheart. Well then you should have phrased your question like this... Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion outside of the New England Patriots or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? You can't change the rules AFTER you ask the question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, JGMcD2 said: Well then you should have phrased your question like this... Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion outside of the New England Patriots or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? You can't change the rules AFTER you ask the question... I just did. Next question. Just now, TN Bills Fan said: The Bills contended last year while spending that much on special teams. Went full moron. Went home empty handed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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