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5 hours ago, Dopey said:

In 2020 Star was top 10 at his position. We use him as someone who eats up space. Can't run at him. People forget how bad our run d was before his arrival, only to be reminded last year.

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I call BS on this. Proof?

From a report the World Health Organization conducted for the Samoan government: https://www.who.int/ncds/surveillance/steps/Printed_STEPS_Report_American_Samoa.pdf

 

Summary prevalence data for physical measures

The overall proportion of those either overweight or obese (defined as BMI>25kg/m2 ) in the survey population was 93.5% and the proportion of those with obesity (BMI>30kg/m2 ) was 74.6%. For males, 92.7% were classified as either overweight or obese with 69.3% being obese. For females, 94.4% were classified as either overweight or obese with 80.2% being classified as obese. Mean waist circumferences for males and females were 104.7cm (41 & 3/16th inches) and 104.8cm (41 & ¼ inches) respectively; both of these exceed the values of 94cm for males (37 inches) and 80cm for females (31 & ½ inches) that are considered to infer increased risk of cardiovascular disease. The total prevalence of high blood pressure amongst males in the survey population was 40.9%. The total prevalence of high blood pressure amongst females was 27.5%. The mean systolic and diastolic blood pressure was 134.1 / 83.5 mmHg in males and 125.1 / 80.0 mmHg in females.

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3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

 

Yeah as I said........if they opted out then the guaranteed money was promised to be shifted to the following season...........if they opted in they would have inevitably gotten no better treatment than the players in league's that could not play their entire seasons....MLB, NBA and NHL.   

 

Those players got their pay pro-rated for the portion of the seasons their league played.........had they played none of the schedule and the league had no revenue then that season of their contract would have been considered accrued......not merely pushed forward.    Those MLB, NBA and NHL players can't make that money back from the shortened season.

 

Star actually had an extra reason financially..........the $350K he was alotted as a "pre-existing underlying condition" player was just extra money that didn't deduct from his guaranteed salary.   The guys who opted out without one of those excuses got $150K but it comes back out of their 2021 paycheck.

 

I am open to the idea that he was irked about being leveraged into a pay cut by Beane.......and given the chance to take the season off and possibly never have to play another down of a game he is tired of and STILL get the last $5M the team owed him(plus a free $350K).........he just took it.

 

But that's not what I am saying.    What the Bills think is another matter.

 

As for his underlying condition........who knows........about 7% of the general public over age 20 have CAD......just one heart condition of many....... so you can bet that quite a lot of players have underlying conditions.........and there were 15 larger categories that players could fall into and qualify for pre-existing underlying conditions.   A reasonable guess is that 1/4 of the league or more could have opted out with underlying conditions.   Yet only 60 players did.

 

Your not reading the part that says 2020 gaurenteed money was rolled over into 21 league calender day. 

3 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

From a report the World Health Organization conducted for the Samoan government: https://www.who.int/ncds/surveillance/steps/Printed_STEPS_Report_American_Samoa.pdf

 

Summary prevalence data for physical measures

The overall proportion of those either overweight or obese (defined as BMI>25kg/m2 ) in the survey population was 93.5% and the proportion of those with obesity (BMI>30kg/m2 ) was 74.6%. For males, 92.7% were classified as either overweight or obese with 69.3% being obese. For females, 94.4% were classified as either overweight or obese with 80.2% being classified as obese. Mean waist circumferences for males and females were 104.7cm (41 & 3/16th inches) and 104.8cm (41 & ¼ inches) respectively; both of these exceed the values of 94cm for males (37 inches) and 80cm for females (31 & ½ inches) that are considered to infer increased risk of cardiovascular disease. The total prevalence of high blood pressure amongst males in the survey population was 40.9%. The total prevalence of high blood pressure amongst females was 27.5%. The mean systolic and diastolic blood pressure was 134.1 / 83.5 mmHg in males and 125.1 / 80.0 mmHg in females.

 

I dont believe clinical obesity was one of the NFLs qualifying high risk conditions. 

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36 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Your not reading the part that says 2020 gaurenteed money was rolled over into 21 league calender day. 

 

 

 

ONLY IF THE PLAYER OPTED OUT.

 

As I've said 3 times now.......if a player opted in(chose to take the risk and play)........ he was basically sharing the risk of the season with ownership.........if the season were cancelled 2 games in(for example) they would not receive all of their pay.......and that season would (of course) count against their contractual obligation.

 

Apparently you do not follow the other sports, but those players have almost entirely guaranteed contracts but only got paid for the portion of their seasons that took place.    MLB players only played 60 games.......they got paid a pro-rated portion of their guaranteed salary........and the team's part of the contractual obligation was considered met, and a season accrued.   MLB players are playing strictly on 2021 contracts this year.......there is no "roll over".    That's the way it would have been for the non-opt outs in the NFL.  

 

The whole reason why there was a deadline to opt out.........and there wasn't an option to opt back in...........was so that players understood that they had to either share in the risk with the league or stay home and accept the $350K or $150K that they qualified for.

 

 

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