Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Your'e missing my point. I'm talking about the field position he gave this team on a fairly regular basis. That may have been your intent, but in the post I responded to, you said: 4 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Well, not sure if Bills made him an offer or not, but if this is true, good luck. Was great having a threat to take it to the house for a change. Since McGee I believe. Now if you feel Roberts brings other advantages, that's find, but I can only recognize and respond to the points I actually read you making on here. To which I say, "how many did he actually take to the house?" and if we agree "none", then my point is, you can't have it both ways. If your point is something else, like he gave us great field position on a regular basis, or he was very reliable fielding punts, and you make it, then I can discussit. But don't mention "a threat to take it to the house for a change", and then tell me I'm missing your point that he gave us great field position on a fairly regular basis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Hardly ever fumbled, wait until we get a Leodosis type fumble next year He did fumble twice and have a muffed punt (essentially 3 fumbles) He had 29 punt returns and 32 kickoff returns, so 61 altogether. Roughly 5% fumble/muff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Roberts was a very good performer for the Bills. Many thanks to him for the past two years. That said, given the cap situation, he is a luxury this team cannot afford. We need to find a younger and cheaper option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He did fumble twice and have a muffed punt (essentially 3 fumbles) He had 29 punt returns and 32 kickoff returns, so 61 altogether. Roughly 5% fumble/muff who among us hasn’t fumbled about the muff ...especially early in our careers? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That may have been your intent, but in the post I responded to, you said: Now if you feel Roberts brings other advantages, that's find, but I can only recognize and respond to the points I actually read you making on here. To which I say, "how many did he actually take to the house?" and if we agree "none", then my point is, you can't have it both ways. If your point is something else, like he gave us great field position on a regular basis, or he was very reliable fielding punts, and you make it, then I can discussit. But don't mention "a threat to take it to the house for a change", and then tell me I'm missing your point that he gave us great field position on a fairly regular basis. Ummm dude, he WAS a threat to take it all the way. That's why I said that specifically, he was a "threat", which he absolutely was. I DID NOT say, "he returns KR's for TD's all the time". Me saying he was a threat in no way shape or form is the same as saying "he returned for TD's". My main point was he was great at giving the offense good field position. Also he was a "threat" to take it all the way. Meaning as rare as it's done, he was more dangerous than most to return it for the score. Yeah dude, you taking "threat" to do something as if it means actually doing it for some odd reason. Edited March 16, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: who among us hasn’t fumbled about the muff ...especially early in our careers? By the time a guy's 33 years old he really shoulda figured it out 1 minute ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Ummm dude, he WAS a threat to take it all the way. That's why I said that specifically, he was a "threat", which he absolutely was. I DID NOT say, "he returns KR's for TD's all the time". OK, you just have a different definition of "threat" than I do. If something hasn't happened in 2 years of football, and in fact, seldom happens league-wide, I don't find it realistic to call it a "threat" To me, that would be like last year when Josh Allen wasn't actually connecting on any deep passes, to call him a "threat" because he has a strong arm and can certainly throw the ball that far. If you want to say that something that hasn't happened in 2 years and seldom happens league wide constitutes a "threat", Enjoy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 hours ago, 17islongenough said: Just sign McKenzie If we sign McKenzie now, does it count against the comp picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 hours ago, DJB said: Can't keep everyone. Previous regimes would have spent $ on guys like this and let quality oline walk. Robert's was good, not spectacular. This also opens a path for MacKenzie to hopefully be back as well as open up another WR spot on the team. Beane knows what he is doing. Returns are also much less part of the game than they were a few years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: By the time a guy's 33 years old he really shoulda figured it out OK, you just have a different definition of "threat" than I do. If something hasn't happened in 2 years of football, and in fact, seldom happens league-wide, I don't find it realistic to call it a "threat" To me, that would be like last year when Josh Allen wasn't actually connecting on any deep passes, to call him a "threat" because he has a strong arm and can certainly throw the ball that far. If you want to say that something that hasn't happened in 2 years and seldom happens league wide constitutes a "threat", Enjoy! Yeah that's just non sense. I used threat due to the fact he got tripped up at the last minute a couple times where was just 1 man to beat. And teams did not want to kick to him because he was.....a threat.That's still a threat. But yeah I'll enjoy using words as they are meant to be used. Edited March 16, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I wonder if it's Mckenzie to fill the roll. Or if there's a draft pick in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, FLFan said: Roberts was a very good performer for the Bills. Many thanks to him for the past two years. That said, given the cap situation, he is a luxury this team cannot afford. We need to find a younger and cheaper option. especially considering that th Texans are paying him almost $6M over a two year period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Norcalbillsfan said: I wonder if it's Mckenzie to fill the roll. Or if there's a draft pick in mind. Should be able to find a later round burner return man if McKenzie isn’t back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Roberts was real good. What made him great was that he didn't fumble, or muff the catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Sucks to lose him but he took a pay cut to stay last year. I don't begrudge him taking 3m a year and more than doubling his paycheck. Good Luck Andre your play helped to propel this team to heights not seen around here in 25 plus years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 16 hours ago, Special K said: Demetric Felton May be an option in the draft as a KR, PR, WR, RB hybrid player?? It’s truly a shame that young man’s last name isn’t System. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I would never want to give $3 mil./yr. for Roberts. He was excellent for us, but this is not a year to spend on a luxury. McKenzie will do fine and hopefully has an expanded role in the offense. He’s quick, and we lost overall speed from Brown. It would be great to get another speed receiver in the mid rounds from the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 17 hours ago, Gugny said: Damn. Was a great two years! He was solid but not great and took up a WR position, on the wrong side of 30 and time to move one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: He was solid but not great and took up a WR position, on the wrong side of 30 and time to move one He led the NFL in average kick return yards and was a 1st team All-Pro. I'm not sure what he'd have had to do in order to achieve greatness in your eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 18 hours ago, Gugny said: Damn. Was a great two years! He was always solid and usually helped the team start with good field positions. I was always surprised he never really broke one for a TD in Buffalo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, eball said: It’s truly a shame that young man’s last name isn’t System. If the Bills draft him, that will have to be his nickname....”The System”! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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