MJS Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I'm fine with the approach. Resign your talent. Make some value signings in free agency. Build through the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Thanks Gunner for taking the time to explain it. This makes Sense now. Some times you have to go back read a second time, I am glad people like you understand me and take the time to explain it. Etienne seems to fit that picture huh? lol I mean my opinion is just another opinion, but I think if a bruiser was the answer then they drafted a pretty good bruiser in Moss and that didn't kick start things. I thought they needed speed last year and I still think they need speed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: Forgot about that. You're absolutely right. That's our 1st pick in the draft. I wouldnt be mad if they went down that road but I still am hoping they get someone In FA who can be close to a certainty to have an impact Day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: I mean my opinion is just another opinion, but I think if a bruiser was the answer then they drafted a pretty good bruiser in Moss and that didn't kick start things. I thought they needed speed last year and I still think they need speed. Moss is a solid force but not great. We saw Frank Gore for years, no matter how good or bad their line was bruise it for 3+ yards. there is a difference between a good solid bruiser and someone elite. But your dragging me to your side of thinking lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: I mean my opinion is just another opinion, but I think if a bruiser was the answer then they drafted a pretty good bruiser in Moss and that didn't kick start things. I thought they needed speed last year and I still think they need speed. Cordarelle Patterson. He can lineup in the back field, return kicks and be a 5th WR for us....take McKenzie’s place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, MJS said: I'm fine with the approach. Resign your talent. Make some value signings in free agency. Build through the draft. Your talent got you to 13 wins and two playoff victories. Not hard to justify trying to keep as much of that team together and then add the 2-3 pieces you might need to compete at a higher level through the draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchiseneedsme Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: With the cap likely jumping significantly next year with the new TV deals + fans back, Beane has a lot of restructure opportunities to free up more cap space. My dream remaining off-season and it is possible: Re-sign McKenzie and a bojorquez UFA signings on Covid deals CB: Richard Sherman TE: Hunter Henry DE: Yannick Ngakoue pick 30: Ettiene falls to us pick 62: if anything close to the above happens I don’t care maybe they could grab a Cooks and Clowney still. Not all this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I wouldnt be mad if they went down that road but I still am hoping they get someone In FA who can be close to a certainty to have an impact Day 1 It's need vs impact day one. We need an edge rusher but at #31, perhaps a guy like Travis Etienne would be our Alvin Kamara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: And pass rush for that matter..... The difference there is that Murphy leaving opens up a roster spot at EDGE. They can draft one at 30 or sign a free agent. Conversely, I don’t see any starting spots left on the o-line. Beane’s comments make it seem like they expect Ford to start, and Mongo’s contract likely means he’ll start, too. Whereas they still have a spot to add a dynamic pass rusher to the roster, the o-line appears set. Certainly the starting five can be written in pencil, if not etched in stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: I keep hearing how this is a very good offensive tackle draft and I think it would be a mistake if they don't use this draft to secure more long term depth and a possible longer term replacement for the older right side of the line. I agree with you, not necessarily about OT but that we need to draft/develop a C/G. Morse is a bit scary at C because of the concussion history. It would be nice to do what way back, the Bills did with Eric Wood where he played guard initially to learn the ropes then slid over to center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Allen had all day to throw at times so locking up our starting 5 on the line is definitely a good thing. Hopefully somehow and someway we will get more out of the running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I’ll give you that - this line was jumbled all year due to injuries. Feliciano missed first 7 or 8 games, Mitch Morse was injured, Ford played hurt then finally went out... Every teams OL is jumbled throughout the season. I thought our OL was one of the healthier units in the league last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Logic said: Conversely, I don’t see any starting spots left on the o-line. Beane’s comments make it seem like they expect Ford to start, and Mongo’s contract likely means he’ll start, too. It's worth remembering that the Bills re-signed Spain to a 3 year, $15M contract and pulled him out of the starting lineup for Ford then ultimately cut him with a bunch of guaranteed salary. They also benched Murphy much of the season. I "get it" fans and members of the media throw their arms up at this, but I don't think Beane and McDermott view guys as slotted in to the starting lineup based on their paycheck (or draft position). I think Beane views re-signing our own FA and FA as ideally, a place to ensure we go into the draft with a team that has few holes. Then he can draft more towards BPA and less towards need, and hopefully bring in guys who compete to make the team better. 1 minute ago, Logic said: Whereas they still have a spot to add a dynamic pass rusher to the roster, the o-line appears set. Certainly the starting five can be written in pencil, if not etched in stone. Maybe I'm just hopeful that they plan to re-sign Boettger (who could compete with the oft-injured Ford) and draft someone who could make them erase that pencil and rewrite it a bit. 🤷♂️ I agree with the folks who point out that it's hard to make things better by keeping them the same. Though it is a valid point that we never did have an OL of Dawkins-Ford-Morse-Feliciano-Williams on the field together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Only problem with this is the chances of those draft picks having that much of an impact is slim.... the Bucs draft picks played huge roles in their success. Wirfs and Winfield were huge additions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think a line that doesn't hold its blocks long enough (which is what we have) needs a back who can hit them and accelerate through them before they close. Moss is a bruiser. In fact he is a good back after contact. He was one of the best in college and made some hard yards after contact last year. He still only averaged 4.3 ypa. They need speed. Peak Jamal Charles couldn't have hit the LOS fast enough to find a whole last year...........it often did not exist.........which in turn made the backs they had more tentative. It got frustrating at the end..........I remember cussing out Moss in the finale for being tentative on a play I thought should have been an 8-10 yarder that he only got 4 yards on. When Williams came in he just barreled into the hole and ripped off big yardage.......you saw a difference. Like Moss you can time Williams 40 (4.52) with a dun dial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, Logic said: I agree that achieving a more effective running game is imperative. Luckily, McDermott and Beane seem to agree. What’s interesting is that they r already said they don’t blame Moss and Singletary for the struggles, and their re-signing the whole o-line indicates that they don’t necessarily think that they caused the problem, either. So...how do they plan to improve the running game? Changing up the run scheme? Adding a more complete tight end and a WR2 that can block well? Perhaps they think Ford’s return will be a big boost? I admit to being perplexed as to how they plan to address the running game at this point. It is a mystery wrapped in an enigma at this point. Unless, as aforementioned, they believe having Ford and Feliciano on the field at the same time is somehow key (I am uncertain). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 These re-signings say a lot about how the players view our team. The Bills are no longer a minor league club that develops players who go on to sign with competitive teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Problem there is cap space.... but hopeful he can make it work without releasing anyone. I think AJ is better than Murphy was.. Heck I think Addison is better than Murphy. I haven't really seen any big drop off in Hughes. I think Oliver is as good as Phillip's was and we had what, a top 5 defense with Hughes, Star, Phillip's and Murphy all with the same back 7? I think the real fix will be push from the middle. Hope Star comes back and is what he was otherwise I want a BIG nasty 1dt I can find or draft... Don't get me wrong, I'd love a top DE, but I think our issue is in the middle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, wvbillsfan said: For a team that couldn’t run the ball I don’t see how bringing back our entire offensive line is a good thing. ...well about our 3rd round running backs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Nice signing. He can play all three interior OL positions and he adds a nasty streak to the group. He is like a body guard to Allen. Players want to be Buffalo Bills again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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