BillStime Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 The most corrupt Presidency, administration and political party in our lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 I'm sure Trump is upset for them, burp. Used them up and threw them away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Deranged - why is Ronny so afraid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 Trump only calls off the mob after Pence usurped his authority and called them himself. Trump's plan was to declare an emergency and have military called out. I hope these scum bags burn in hell--but jail first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Trump only calls off the mob after Pence usurped his authority and called them himself. Trump's plan was to declare an emergency and have military called out. I hope these scum bags burn in hell--but jail first You're engaging in wild speculation. There's absolutely no evidence that any military units were waiting for instructions from Trump or anyone else to intercede with the election certification or to "take over" the government. Tell us from your many "credible" sources, what branch of the services from what base and what units under who's command were awaiting the go signal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: You're engaging in wild speculation. There's absolutely no evidence that any military units were waiting for instructions from Trump or anyone else to intercede with the election certification or to "take over" the government. Tell us from your many "credible" sources, what branch of the services from what base and what units under who's command were awaiting the go signal? What do you care? You don't care about him sending a mob to stop the election certification and carrying out of consitutional duties. You are of course going to lie, cheat and do whatever a good little fascist needs to. So why even ask? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: You're engaging in wild speculation. There's absolutely no evidence that any military units were waiting for instructions from Trump or anyone else to intercede with the election certification or to "take over" the government. Tell us from your many "credible" sources, what branch of the services from what base and what units under who's command were awaiting the go signal? Hell, he couldn't even get the National Guard for the J6 protest. Military units ready to take over? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I love all these theories about Trump using the military and administrative state to help with the "insurrection!" Four years full of Trump battling the entrenched swamp nonsense coming at him 24/7 from all angles, and we are supposed to believe that they suddenly are going to have his back to help him remain in power? Beyond ridiculous. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: I love all these theories about Trump using the military and administrative state to help with the "insurrection!" Four years full of Trump battling the entrenched swamp nonsense coming at him 24/7 from all angles, and we are supposed to believe that they suddenly are going to have his back to help him remain in power? Beyond ridiculous. Oh, really? idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 10 hours ago, BillStime said: Wow, what a soar loser/ He is totally as crazy as Democrats have been saying he is. His supporters are just the worst 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Wow, what a soar loser/ He is totally as crazy as Democrats have been saying he is. His supporters are just the worst He is desperate AF - just like his supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nedboy7 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Adm. Steve Abbot, Gen. Peter Chiarelli, Gen. John Jumper, Adm. James Loy, Adm. John Nathman, Adm. William Owens and Gen. Johnnie Wilson are retired four-star generals and admirals in the U.S. armed forces. The inquiry by the House’s Jan. 6 committee has produced many startling findings, but none to us more alarming than the fact that while rioters tried to thwart the peaceful transfer of power and ransacked the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, the president and commander in chief, Donald Trump, abdicated his duty to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. In the weeks leading up to that terrible day, allies of Mr. Trump also urged him to hold on to power by unlawfully ordering the military to seize voting machines and supervise a do-over of the election. Such an illegal order would have imperiled a foundational precept of American democracy: civilian control of the military. Americans may take it for granted, but the strength of our democracy rests upon the stability of this arrangement, which requires both civilian and military leaders to have confidence that they have the same goal of supporting and defending the Constitution. We hope that the country will never face such a crisis again. But to safeguard our constitutional order, military leaders must be ready for similar situations in which the chain of command appears unclear or the legality of orders uncertain. The relationship between America’s civilian leadership and its military is structured by an established chain of command: from unit leaders through various commanders and generals and up to the secretary of defense and the president. Civilian authorities have the constitutional and legal right and responsibility to decide whether to use military force. As military officers, we had the duty to provide candid, expert advice on how to use such force and then to obey all lawful orders, whether we agreed or not. The events of Jan. 6 offer a demonstration on how military and civilian leaders execute this relationship and what happens when it comes under threat. When a mob attacked the Capitol, the commander in chief failed to act to restore order and even encouraged the rioters. As Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified to Congress, Vice President Mike Pence attempted to fill the void by calling on the National Guard to intervene. Given the urgent need to secure the Capitol, Mr. Pence’s request was reasonable. Yet the vice president has no role in the chain of command unless specifically acting under the president’s authority because of illness or incapacitation, and therefore cannot lawfully issue orders to the military. Members of Congress, who also pleaded for military assistance as the mob laid siege to the Capitol, are in the same category. In the end, the National Guard deployed not in response to those pleas but under lawful orders issued by the acting secretary of defense, Christopher Miller. Should civilians atop the chain of command again abandon their duties or attempt to abuse their authority, military ranks can and must respond in accordance with their oaths — without a lawful order from appropriate command authority, they cannot unilaterally undertake a mission. Concurrent with a duty to obey all lawful orders is a duty to question and disobey unlawful orders — those a person “of ordinary sense and understanding,” as a Court of Military Review ruling put it, would know to be wrong. Operations on U.S. soil must also specifically comply with the Standing Rules for the Use of Force, which limit use of force but explicitly authorize it to protect people from imminent threat of death or serious harm, to defend “assets vital to national security” and “to prevent the sabotage of a national critical infrastructure.” These are essential checks on civilian officials who would make unlawful use of U.S. military personnel. Governors, who possess broad command authority over our 54 National Guard organizations, for example, may face political pressure to deploy these forces to illegally interfere with elections or other democratic processes. To recognize these threats to our democracy, military leaders must continue to develop robust training, guidance and resources for service members in accordance with these safeguards, ensuring the integrity of the chain of command and effective operation of civil-military relations. But while such preparedness is necessary, it is not sufficient. We each took an oath as former leaders of the armed forces to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” We fulfilled that oath through service to civilian leadership elected by and accountable to the American people. This essential arrangement, however, is not self-executing; it relies on civilian leaders equally committed to protecting and defending the Constitution — including, most important, the commander in chief. The principle of civilian control of the military predates the founding of the Republic. In 1775, George Washington was commissioned as the military commander of the Continental Army under the civilian command authority of the Second Continental Congress. The next year, among the grievances listed in the Declaration of Independence against King George III was his making “the military independent of and superior to the civil power.” The president’s dereliction of duty on Jan. 6 tested the integrity of this historic principle as never before, endangering American lives and our democracy. The lesson of that day is clear. Our democracy is not a given. To preserve it, Americans must demand nothing less from their leaders than an unassailable commitment to country over party — and to their oaths above all. On 7/19/2022 at 3:25 PM, DRsGhost said: I love all these theories about Trump using the military and administrative state to help with the "insurrection!" Four years full of Trump battling the entrenched swamp nonsense coming at him 24/7 from all angles, and we are supposed to believe that they suddenly are going to have his back to help him remain in power? Beyond ridiculous. The swamp!! So cute. 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BillsFanNC Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) What else is new? Full transcripts by September!! Edited July 22, 2022 by DRsGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Now post one the democrats during the Summer of Mostly Peaceful Riots Then do one of Chuckie in front of the Supreme Court 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Now post one the democrats during the Summer of Mostly Peaceful Riots Then do one of Chuckie in front of the Supreme Court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, BillStime said: That’s not Chuck….try and pay attention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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