The January 6th Commission To Investigate The Insurrection

[Bob in Mich]

3 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Typically I don't have to point out the obvious to those who read the articles.

 

 

“Now a central question is whether the attack on the Capitol was coordinated and planned,” said Select Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., while wrapping up questions. “What you witnessed is what a coordinated and planned effort would look like. It was the culmination of a months-long effort spearheaded by President Trump.”

Except Quested did not testify that the Proud Boys attended first as insurrectionists. To the contrary, Quested told NBC’s Chuck Todd on “Meet the Press” Sunday that the group’s leader, Henry “Enrique” Tarrio, was “very receptive” to the documentary crew’s embed.

 

“How did you get Mr. Tarrio and other members of the Proud Boys to say, ‘Yes. Film us. We want this on the record. Document what we’re doing?” Todd asked.

“Well, I had a colleague who gave me Enrique’s phone number and I called him,” Quested said, before going on:

 

He was very receptive to the idea. He liked the film that I had produced called Restrepo with my colleagues Sebastian Junger and Tim Hetherington, which was a film about a deployment of veterans in the Korengal Valley in Afghanistan. So I think the veteran aspect of that was appealing to them.

 

The leader of a group plotting a coordinated insurrection would normally be hard-pressed to allow a documentarian to film it, let alone be receptive to an embed.

 

 

 

Now, you can disagree with that interpretation of course, but "pretending" that you couldn't see it was dishonest.

 

 

 

 

There was also a link to this often ignored fact. 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

 

 

 

So, it’s too much for you to explain how the article debunks the coordination possibility?  I read the article. How copying and pasting it here helps anyone’s understanding is confusing at best.

 

I saw the article state some points, yes.  I don’t see how those points mean there was no coordination.  That was the explanation I was hoping you might give.  The author did a poor job connecting his facts with his assertion

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

So, it’s too much for you to explain how the article debunks the coordination possibility?  I read the article. How copying and pasting it here helps anyone’s understanding is confusing at best.

 

I saw the article state some points, yes.  I don’t see how those points mean there was no coordination.  That was the explanation I was hoping you might give.  The author did a poor job connecting his facts with his assertion

 

It doesn't.

 

It does raise the question of why the Proud Boys would invite a documentarian if they were going to be committing crimes but there could be other reasons for it. Maybe they didn't think what they were doing was a crime.

 

Or maybe they're stupid. We're talking about people with an initiation ritual of trying to name cereal brands while being beat up.

 

The article raises the question, but it does not answer it.

[Coach Tuesday]

4 hours ago, DRsGhost said:

It sure can be. Especially when you bend the truth and plain just make ***** up in order to create your own mirage of staggering hypocrisy. 

 

 0.0 capitol police officers died during the three hour "insurrection"

 

Plenty were assaulted and those responsible should absolutely receive justice, Ray Epps included, but somehow I don't see that happening. .

 

I'm sure the J6 Committee is also looking to speak to those capitol police offices who unlocked and opened doors to allow the "insurrectionists" inside. 

 

 

 

See protesters allowed to break the law and demonstrate in front of SC justices homes.

 

 

 

You mean the multiple states that violated the Constitution by changing voting laws in 2020 by means other than their respective state legislatures?

 

 

 

See above and the resulting puking out of ballots and ballot applications everywhere to out of date voter rolls.

 

See previous bipartisan condemnations of universal mail in balloting as an open invitation for corruption. Yet somehow this election turned out to be the most "secure in US history" anyway. 

 

Please. 

 

 

" peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard"

 

 

The orange menace told people to storm the capitol! Coup! Insurrection! 

 

 

 

 

Lol. Because we sure need 9 different channels to choose from to watch this propaganda ***** show.

Lol fascist coups are ok as long as someone else broke laws too…

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Typically I don't have to point out the obvious to those who read the articles.

 

 

“Now a central question is whether the attack on the Capitol was coordinated and planned,” said Select Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., while wrapping up questions. “What you witnessed is what a coordinated and planned effort would look like. It was the culmination of a months-long effort spearheaded by President Trump.”

Except Quested did not testify that the Proud Boys attended first as insurrectionists. To the contrary, Quested told NBC’s Chuck Todd on “Meet the Press” Sunday that the group’s leader, Henry “Enrique” Tarrio, was “very receptive” to the documentary crew’s embed.

 

“How did you get Mr. Tarrio and other members of the Proud Boys to say, ‘Yes. Film us. We want this on the record. Document what we’re doing?” Todd asked.

“Well, I had a colleague who gave me Enrique’s phone number and I called him,” Quested said, before going on:

 

He was very receptive to the idea. He liked the film that I had produced called Restrepo with my colleagues Sebastian Junger and Tim Hetherington, which was a film about a deployment of veterans in the Korengal Valley in Afghanistan. So I think the veteran aspect of that was appealing to them.

 

The leader of a group plotting a coordinated insurrection would normally be hard-pressed to allow a documentarian to film it, let alone be receptive to an embed.

 

 

 

Now, you can disagree with that interpretation of course, but "pretending" that you couldn't see it was dishonest.

 

 

 

 

There was also a link to this often ignored fact. 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

 

 

 

There is also talk of wire fraud for conning Trump supporters out of $250 million. Did you donate to Trump's election fraud fight? 

[Tenhigh]

6 hours ago, Bob in Mich said:

Why, this is Beau of course.  Beau has a YouTube channel and comments on current news events.  Of course I don’t agree sometimes but he has pretty good content.  I think his background is military or military intelligence

 

His point was that unquestionably it was a coup.  The classification within coups seems debatable.  

 

To those less educated in coups, it may not appear to be a coup because it did not look like coups that one has seen in movies.  That is because tanks and guns, like in the movie military coups, are unnecessary to retain power in this type of coup

Lol, I totally thought you Rickrolled me when I clicked that link.  He looks like a guyI would ask for smoker advice,  so I didn't bother to watch. Regardless, I am aware that not all coups are military.  But the other types aren't led by paramilitary organizations. 

[Doc]

5 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I'd like Trump to go away because he's the wrong person at the wrong time in 2024.  A victory would mean another 4 year term of Democratic obstruction.  The country will need somebody in the White House, from either party, that is actually committed and capable of pulling everyone and the country together.  That means dumping the fringe ideologues on both extremes of the political spectrum and focusing on the core of American beliefs and values.  Unfortunately for all of us, 1 1/2 years into the term, Biden and his administration have already demonstrated they're not up to that task.  So expect things to do down hill from here until minimum 2024.   

 

You think the Dems will back-off any Repub?  What did they do to Romney?  Say he would put blacks back in chains and women in binders.

[Tiberius]

13 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

You think the Dems will back-off any Repub?  What did they do to Romney?  Say he would put blacks back in chains and women in binders.

Romney voted for impeachment. Now what do you say about him? 

[Doc]

13 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Romney voted for impeachment. Now what do you say about him? 

 

That his ego was hurt by Trump calling him out for being a loser.  Now he's a Dem hero.

[ChiGoose]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

That his ego was hurt by Trump calling him out for being a loser.  Now he's a Dem hero.

 

Is he? I would be surprised if most Dems think he's a hero.

 

Like Liz Cheney, what I've seen from the Left is begrudging respect for doing the right thing.

 

Then again, you get people who want attention and say crazy things like they are now Democrats or that the Dems should run Cheney on their 2024 ticket.

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Is he? I would be surprised if most Dems think he's a hero.

 

Like Liz Cheney, what I've seen from the Left is begrudging respect for doing the right thing.

 

Then again, you get people who want attention and say crazy things like they are now Democrats or that the Dems should run Cheney on their 2024 ticket.

 

The point is that the Dems will make any Republican nominee look like a bigot.  And after they made Trump the boogeyman, will try and tie them to Trump.

[ChiGoose]

Just now, Doc said:

 

The point is that the Dems will make any Republican nominee look like a bigot.  And after they made Trump the boogeyman, will try and tie them to Trump.

 

...and? The GOP does the same. Any candidate the Dems nominate will be decried as an anti-American socialist who wants to open the borders and destroy the police.

 

In a two-party system, everything about elections is zero-sum and incentivizes our worst tendencies.

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

 

...and? The GOP does the same. Any candidate the Dems nominate will be decried as an anti-American socialist who wants to open the borders and destroy the police.

 

In a two-party system, everything about elections is zero-sum and incentivizes our worst tendencies.

 

 

Yes, exactly. Everything. 

[BillsFanNC]

3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Lol fascist coups are ok as long as someone else broke laws too…

 

Fascists ignore FACTS in order to further their BS narrative. 

 

Duly noted that you didn't address any of the facts presented. 

 

In true Fascist order. 

[BillStime]

18 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

 

Fascists ignore FACTS in order to further their BS narrative. 

 

Duly noted that you didn't address any of the facts presented. 

 

In true Fascist order. 

 

👆🤡😅

Irony is dead.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ChiGoose]

5 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

Anyone who saw yesterday's testimony would know that the election wasn't stolen. Trump's people, under oath, said it wasn't.

 

I would wager most of the GOP members of Congress cannot stand Trump (definitely in the Senate), but they will toe the line so long as it is profitable for them. I'm glad that at least Cheney isn't caving to the lunacy, even if it likely costs her her seat.

[Coffeesforclosers]

25 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

 

Anyone who saw yesterday's testimony would know that the election wasn't stolen. Trump's people, under oath, said it wasn't.

 

I would wager most of the GOP members of Congress cannot stand Trump (definitely in the Senate), but they will toe the line so long as it is profitable for them. I'm glad that at least Cheney isn't caving to the lunacy, even if it likely costs her her seat.

 

So everything about the election being stolen was false. Trump then bilked his supporters out of $250 million that went straight into his own pocket. Then he paid his son's fiance $60,000 for three minutes of work. That's about where we're at so far? 

 

Man, Joel Osteen should be taking notes. 

[ChiGoose]

1 minute ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

So everything about the election being stolen was false. Trump then bilked his supporters out of $250 million that went straight into his own pocket. Then he paid his son's fiance $60,000 for three minutes of work. That's about where we're at so far? 

 

Man, Joel Osteen should be taking notes. 

Pretty much, except the destination of all of the $250 million hasn't been made public as far as I'm aware. The hearing showed where about $7 million went. We know that there was no defense fund, so it'd be nice to learn where the remaining $243 million went.

 

I would hazard a guess that the lifetime grifter and conman managed to siphon a good amount of that into his own pockets but we'll have to wait and see. Only $200K was revealed yesterday to go to a Trump property specifically.

[Coffeesforclosers]

8 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Pretty much, except the destination of all of the $250 million hasn't been made public as far as I'm aware. The hearing showed where about $7 million went. We know that there was no defense fund, so it'd be nice to learn where the remaining $243 million went.

 

I would hazard a guess that the lifetime grifter and conman managed to siphon a good amount of that into his own pockets but we'll have to wait and see. Only $200K was revealed yesterday to go to a Trump property specifically.

 

Right? Well this should be interesting.

 

...But the ***** infuriating thing is that if all the stolen election stuff was false, then January 6th should never have happened.  If it was all false, the January 6th was about sour grapes and sore losers AT BEST. ***** grown ass men and women should have learned to handle in elementary school. 

Edited June 14, 2022 by Coffeesforclosers

[Beach]

so is it over?  can i start sharing my videos yet?  

[Doc]

15 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

Right? Well this should be interesting.

 

...But the ***** infuriating thing is that if all the stolen election stuff was false, then January 6th should never have happened.  If it was all false, the January 6th was about sour grapes and sore losers AT BEST. ***** grown ass men and women should have learned to handle in elementary school. 

 

You mean like the 2016 election?