blacklabel Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I honestly didn't know this dude was still in the league. I know he had a few solid seasons several years ago but he fell off the face of the Earth after that. I don't doubt that they'll at least inquire with his agent and see what kinda shape he's in. Could be a Daryl Williams type thing. Or the Vontae Davis thing like the guy said in the tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 hours ago, NewEra said: Like Daryl Williams was last year. He was awful in 2019. 2M got it done and was one of the best free agent signings in the entire league....not just for the Bills. I just don’t understand why “ex-Carolina panther” is the foundation for not wanting him. We’ve had some success with some ex Carolina panthers. Williams being a prime example. Klein turned out to be a solid addition after a tough start. Marlowe has made some nice plays. Butler didn’t set the world on fire, but him playing 1T helped turn around our run D that was missing Star. If he’s healthy and cheap....I don’t see why anyone would have a problem with this. When healthy, he was a beast. If he’s clearly lost a few steps or wants too much money, I get not wanting him. But short wouldn’t be playing 1T backing up star.....which is what harrison should be doing Norman was fine as a rotational corner and helped spark the defense in several games 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I can’t see anybody paying him more than $2-3m for 1 year. For somebody who’s made $70m in his career, the guy’s gotta really love playing to come back and play for $2-3m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 We’ve gotta be running out of players that were in Carolina when McD was there....right? Please say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 8 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said: You know the drill by now, get ‘er done Beane. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30911809/carolina-panthers-intend-release-dt-kawann-short-source-says Sure why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: Guys that wear #99 are aggravating .... Some are Lazy (Dareus) Some can't make up their mind on ANYTHING (JJ Watt) Now this Short guy., 2 shoulder surgeries in 2 years ....Pass . WTF did you just say? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Bills don't need DTs. They need edge rushers. Hard pass. He is 32. They need to get younger, bigger, and faster on the edge. I Agree Hopefully this is not a cost saving move just to fill a gap as we release others for cap space. Cover 1 one did short review on him and he has been oft injured , unavailable. He is 32. Might be ok along with star. But cover 1 guys really felt he was on last legs of career with possible year or two of rotation play left. They were not very high on him. Doubt if this Carolina cast off system we keep going to should be an answer for us. Why keep doing this with guys from an organization less successful now and it’s like we don’t trust our own pro Personel department to evaluate talent. Given lack of impressive guys from panthers lately hopefully we quit going to this well. Just wonder if beane is cutting guys to get under cap and then this guy is low tier replacement. Only saying this since he was good once , but now two year removed from impactful playing. I respect cover 1 with film e v a l and if they weren’t greatly impressed, I trust them as their analysis was spot on much of last year. They are currently doing a really nice evaluation of the o line draft prospects that could be good for the bills. Going on their YouTube channel,right now live at 825 pm Tuesday evening. Good watch of possible o line in draft for us to consider with technique breakdown of actual film from college this year. Nice stuff imho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 8 hours ago, billieve420 said: Rather draft DT someone who will replace Star after this year instead. do both. short one year deal. DT from LSU or FSU in 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 hours ago, jlgarsh said: Norman was fine as a rotational corner and helped spark the defense in several games Not sure about several, but he for sure did in the game knocking the ball loose. I think he definitely struggled more than he made plays. Also he's lost a step or 2, but least he knows the D very well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, HOUSE said: Guys that wear #99 are aggravating .... Some are Lazy (Dareus) Some can't make up their mind on ANYTHING (JJ Watt) Now this Short guy., 2 shoulder surgeries in 2 years ....Pass . I mean we can probably cross off shoulder surgery as a possible injury next year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 9 hours ago, JohnNord said: I disagree. A big part of their issues on defense was how easily offensive lines could push around the middle of the defense. Many have said that lacking a true space eating DT also is why Edmunds struggled. You may not like Short, but I don’t think you can say the Bills don’t need DT’s. We aren’t even 100% that Star comes back next season I’m assuming Star comes back. That gives them Star, Oliver, Phillips, and Zimmer. They will have a fifth player that can play DE but also pick up some snaps as a nickle DT. That could be Jefferson or Butler as I don’t think Beane will cut ties with both those two and Addison all at the same time. That is more than enough cap space allocated to DT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Buffalo Fanatics on the topic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 17 hours ago, jlgarsh said: Norman was fine as a rotational corner and helped spark the defense in several games Norman was a big part in helping win the Vegas game and made a few other plays as a role player. Not a bust of a signing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Another meh ex Carolina Panther signing.... They overvalue and overpay their ex players. Norman was very critical to winning that Raiders game and made a few plays here and there, at least he produced something of value. Now you can argue that he didn't produce enough for the money he got but the team got some quality play for that signing. If Norman wants to come back at or near the vet minimum I would bring him into camp. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 This would really depend on the cost to me Remember.....we play a rotation so players with prior injuries might do well here Was there any doubt that he did not have talent? No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 12:24 PM, KOKBILLS said: He's barely played in 2 years... Look, The Magic Beane will pay him the minimum and he’ll play, OK! Relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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