Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So the whole idea of this notion, per Thad Brown, is that the Raiders want to trade Carr for 2 firsts. Then take those and their next two firsts and flip them for Watson. 4 1st for Watson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: When the Bills were going through the drought I cant remember a time where quality QB's were available for trade like now. We did trade for Bledsoe but that was it for 15+ years. Go figure It really is a crazy time right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Rumors are the Raiders are trying to trade Carr and a bunch of picks for Watson. For once the focus is on keep players and plugging up a piece or two. If the team resigns D.Williams, Mongo, Milano, Roberts, Ty and Barkley I don't see too many holes on this roster just a couple more pieces needed to get the team over KC. I think the point is that we're not likely going to be able to re-sign D Williams, Mongo, and Milano much less all of them PLUS Roberts, Ty Nsekhe, and Barkley. And don't forget Isaiah McKenzie, Ike Boettger, Dean Marlowe and Levi Wallace who are either re-signings or holes We can cut some players to create cap but then we have to fill those holes. That was the whole point of Beane's presser saying we're going to have to make some hard choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Though it would be a rare cruelty to put Derek Carr on the same team that broke his brothers spirit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I would like whatever the Mariota is better than car crowd is smoking because that take is objectively terrible. I think it's going to take five or six first to get Watson and the reason why Carr doesn't just get moved for him is because Houston wants draft picks as opposed to players. Stafford just moved for two first round picks and Carr is better than Stafford and 3 years younger. Two first round picks for Carris a deal that makes sense if your Chicago or if your San Francisco and you are currently looking to upgrade that position. That deal is in realistic for the Broncos because they're in the same division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 It's funny because QB is actually becoming somewhat of a "fungible" position. There are a lot of excellent ones out there, and more coming out every year that look really good right out of the gate, or at least very soon afterwards. So that makes me wonder why any team would trade for anything less than the best. Any team that trades for Derek Carr deserves what they get. He's eminently replaceable 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think the point is that we're not likely going to be able to re-sign D Williams, Mongo, and Milano much less all of them PLUS Roberts, Ty Nsekhe, and Barkley. And don't forget Isaiah McKenzie, Ike Boettger, Dean Marlowe and Levi Wallace who are either re-signings or holes Barkley won't tipped the scales. He should play for food and extra game tickets for his wife's pals at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: 4 1st for Watson? Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just decoding the central premise of the OP: Quote For that to happen, the Raiders would have to receive two first-round picks for Carr, which they would then package with their own first-rounders in 2021 and 2022 to present a compelling offer of four first-round picks to the Texans for Watson, who has reportedly asked be traded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just decoding the central premise of the OP: If so, then Caserio should be on the phone right now to Gruden. They would be nuts not to take that ridiculous offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 46 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Interesting idea but who gives up two #1’s to begin with for Carr? Carolina offered #9 overall for Stafford. They might be interested in Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Mahomes, Watson, and Herbert all in the same division....yes please? Tell me about...let them all beat the crap out of each other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: It's funny because QB is actually becoming somewhat of a "fungible" position. There are a lot of excellent ones out there, and more coming out every year that look really good right out of the gate, or at least very soon afterwards. So that makes me wonder why any team would trade for anything less than the best. Any team that trades for Derek Carr deserves what they get. He's eminently replaceable I’ve always felt there’s also something “off”about Carr as a leader and teammate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 46 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I cannot wait to see which GM gives up two firsts for D Carr. In a world where Matthew Stafford goes for 2 firsts and a third it is possible esp given how good Carr's contract is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: In a world where Matthew Stafford goes for 2 firsts and a third it is possible esp given how good Carr's contract is. Stafford basically went for one first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Stafford basically went for one first. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Not too long ago a number of folks here considered Carr a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Yeah cause he’s a smart quarterback, who’s a team first guy that can win at a $20M annual contract.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: 4 1st for Watson? He is worth more in my opinion. Young QB's who are elite are hard to find. But realistically the Texans are going to have to hope for a package of picks that includes 4 firsts as a bedrock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Nobody’s giving up one first rounder for Carr let alone two. The guy is just good enough to not get a top draft pick but not good enough to make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Not too long ago a number of folks here considered Carr a stud. Folks here being wrong not too long ago is irrelevant to the discussion today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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