RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, JoshAllenReceipts said: Allen was clearly better than Watson in 2020. Clearly. Not even debatable. Total QBR: Allen = 82 Watson = 71 Total TDs: Allen = 46 Watson = 36 Record: Allen = 15-4 Watson = 4-12 Don't even try and argue with this. Accept it as fact, because it is, and move on. Exactly. Watson is a fatally flawed QB. Zero pocket presence and Sack machine. His complete lack of pocket presence and feel for the rush, essentially forced Bill OBrien to trade for the game's #1 pure pass-protecting Left Tackle (Tunsil). Obrien knew that Watson needs an elite LT to function. LOL. I love the use of highly selected facts and then the need to declare yourself victorious. "Don't even try and argue with this. Accept it as fact, because it is so, and move on. What a bombastic arrogant statement. Did you even read or comprehend what I wrote? There is a difference between the two teams. You never answered my question, what would Watson numbers look like is he had Diggs and Beasley and Allen had Kekee Coutee and Brandin Cooks. Oh and speaking of FACTS, somehow you forgot these stats Watson : pass yard 4,823 Quarterback Rating 112.4 Int 7 Rushing : 444 yard Fumbles 8 Allen: pass yards 4,544 Quarterback Rating 107.2 Int 10 Rushing 421 Fumbles 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I think Zach Wilson could be a very good QB in the NFL. Although, I think he should have stayed at Brigham Young for his senior year.. I think our friend Belichek could hit a gold mine with Mac Jones at 15. A solid, ridiculously accurate (77.4%) in the pocket passer, proven winner, improved every year, 41 tds vs 4 ints......... not very mobile but Belichek is used to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Process said: Dolphins and jets are in such great positions to make a move with the draft picks they have. Good chance he ends up in the AFCE. Dolphins, Jets, AND Patriots are all potential destinations for him. Our division was a relative cakewalk this year. I expect it to get much, MUCH tougher next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Any team that seems close but without an answer at QB should break out the credit card and mortgage the future to get Watson. You're not really "giving up picks" but turning a maybe into a certainty. Watson is a proven top 5-7 QB who is young. 1st round picks don't always work out, or often are "meh" once a couple of years go by. You could have a top QB for the next decade (easily) or a WR,CB and T that may or may not be any good in a handful of years for the guy who takes over for you when you're fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Dolphins, Jets, AND Patriots are all potential destinations for him. Our division was a relative cakewalk this year. I expect it to get much, MUCH tougher next year. Can't see the Pats having enough ammunition to make that deal, but Texans GM has connections with the Evil One, so who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 He won't be remaining in the AFC. Much less going to an AFCE team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: We know they don't have to trade him, right? I think they do. QB is unlike any other position in football, it's the face of the franchise as we know. I don't think the Texans' front office would like to be known as the FO that oddly disrupted the cohesion of the team and refused to let cut ties with a player who has done his part in the Houston community and on the field, and has a fanbase that respects him and probably understands his position of wanting to start over somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: We know they don't have to trade him, right? I would tell him too F’ing bad, you’re’ not going anywhere. I certainly wouldn’t make a deal that wasn’t 200% in their favor. Edited January 28, 2021 by Meatloaf63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: I think they do. QB is unlike any other position in football, it's the face of the franchise as we know. I don't think the Texans' front office would like to be known as the FO that oddly disrupted the cohesion of the team and refused to let cut ties with a player who has done his part in the Houston community and on the field, and has a fanbase that respects him and probably understands his position of wanting to start over somewhere else. LOL! You're kdding, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: I think they do. QB is unlike any other position in football, it's the face of the franchise as we know. I don't think the Texans' front office would like to be known as the FO that oddly disrupted the cohesion of the team and refused to let cut ties with a player who has done his part in the Houston community and on the field, and has a fanbase that respects him and probably understands his position of wanting to start over somewhere else. It has already gone way, way beyond that stage,,,the absolute majority of Texans fans are downright disgusted with the team. This bizarre McNair-Easterby relationship has everyone and the Team upset. If you ever think the Bill fans were upset at Ralph and/or the Bills front office, magnify by 10X and you have the current state of affairs in Houston. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Doc said: LOL! You're kdding, right? And for the rest of the post... I don't follow that team, but I do know that Watson is a good guy---unless I'm missing something--- and has given his all for that org. That's usually the type of player fans get behind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: I think they do. QB is unlike any other position in football, it's the face of the franchise as we know. I don't think the Texans' front office would like to be known as the FO that oddly disrupted the cohesion of the team and refused to let cut ties with a player who has done his part in the Houston community and on the field, and has a fanbase that respects him and probably understands his position of wanting to start over somewhere else. Actually the player the fanbase respected and most WANTED the Texans to trade was JJ Watt last year, they wanted him to end his career with a winner. Watson on the other hand is the future, he goes the entire teams could be lucky to win a game next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, JoshAllenReceipts said: Total QBR: Allen = 82 Watson = 71 Total TDs: Allen = 46 Watson = 36 Run along now. This is what it looks like when you are cherry picking stats. Except I take Donald Duck more seriously. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: I think they do. QB is unlike any other position in football, it's the face of the franchise as we know. I don't think the Texans' front office would like to be known as the FO that oddly disrupted the cohesion of the team and refused to let cut ties with a player who has done his part in the Houston community and on the field, and has a fanbase that respects him and probably understands his position of wanting to start over somewhere else. Watson is the Franchise, the future. If the team actually gets it together and starts to rise, the fans will forgive if not forget. Winning changes everything. If the team trades Watson, their chance to get it together and rise drop enormously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: Actually the player the fanbase respected and most WANTED the Texans to trade was JJ Watt last year, they wanted him to end his career with a winner. Watson on the other hand is the future, he goes the entire teams could be lucky to win a game next year. Is that to say that the hatred they have for the FO now extends to Watson because he no longer wants to deal with it? Are those the sentiments being expressed by Texans' fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I think our friend Belichek could hit a gold mine with Mac Jones at 15. A solid, ridiculously accurate (77.4%) in the pocket passer, proven winner, improved every year, 41 tds vs 4 ints......... not very mobile but Belichek is used to that. I would like to see what Mac Jones looks like without being at Alabama. That being said, he would be a safe pick for New England. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Oh this is special. Early odds on where Watson ends up, note the two leaders: Jets +200 Dolphins +400 Saint/49ers +800 Panthers/Pats +900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, bills6969 said: please go to San Fran, please go to San Fran, please go to San Fran.😬 ...or Washinton or the Rams. That's his best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Watson is the Franchise, the future. If the team actually gets it together and starts to rise, the fans will forgive if not forget. Winning changes everything. If the team trades Watson, their chance to get it together and rise drop enormously. The problem is, due to BOB's universe brain moves, they dont have the draft picks to re-build and improve and win UNLESS they trade Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: And for the rest of the post... I don't follow that team, but I do know that Watson is a good guy---unless I'm missing something--- and has given his all for that org. That's usually the type of player fans get behind. Fans are usually fans of the team, not player. Once a player is gone, especially if he demands to leave, they turn on him instantly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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