dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, zow2 said: Feel for the game. I don't think we had the plays, or the execution to convert those 4th downs,..certainly not the goal to go one. I'm fine with the FG at the end of half. The other one, 4th and 3? he probably should have went for. But McD saw what i saw, the Bills simply were not executing well in that game until the very end when the Chiefs were playing softer zones. Yup, and the 4th and 3 one is more makeable. On that one, KC has to guard both the sticks and the end zone. That's tougher to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just because the Bears made the playoffs doesn’t justify Pace and Nagy doing a good job. Nagy and Pace should be fired just like Whaley and Brandon should’ve been fired after 2 years. Whaley and Brandon is about as low as you can get and we’re never hired again in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just because we made the playoffs on a Andy Dalton bomb people think Whaley did a good job because he ended the playoff streak. Whaley and Brandon sucked ass. Everyone and their mother knew we were going to be one and done in the playoffs. Total suck fest, Whaley reeks of sour grapes and the brown stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 8 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Ok John. The way some fans act like Whaley was a total disaster is just a flat out lie. We went 9-7 with EJ/ and that kitty cat Orton. They beat Rodgers with no offensive tds and end Manning’s td streak. They later had a top 10 scoring offense with Tyrod Taylor. no one is saying Whaley is great. But it was a loser franchise and he averaged 8 wins a year while he was here. Far from terrible. He never got the qb like MCBeane did (total credit to them) and he got fired, but if he’s not qualified to talk about football, 99.9% of this board isn’t. They went 9-7 with Orton and EJ. Their receivers were non broken Sammy, Woods, Hogan, and Goodwin. They had 4 double digits sack guys and the number 2 defense. You don’t like Whaley but you’re a liar if that wasn’t a borderline great team with a good qb. of course you’re the same guy who used to trash Andy Reid all the time. Funny, you still doing that of a sudden. 🤔 So what? You said SB contender with Josh. That's ridiculous. Sammy, Hogan, Goodwin?? Come ON! 2014 was Sammy's ONLY FULL SEASON lol. Hogan was a decent #4. Goodwin? lol They had 1 top 5 D, then it went straight to them mid to high teens for Tyrod era. Yeah Reid looks like he's turned it around, but his past inability to coach through the biggest games was well known, so I don't know why you are still treating his past struggles like some hot take. Whaley Bills as a Josh Allen away from a SB contender (with Rex or Marrone as coach of course!) is a joke. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 He made a lot of valid points ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, JohnNord said: Of course....that’s because you can’t replace all 53 players on a roster at once. That logic would give any past regime credit for the previous regime’s success. Like I said, Beane and McDermott got rid of a lot of Whaley guys in 2017 and by the end of 2018 almost all of them were gone. Did Marv Levy and Buddy Nix helped end the drought too because players they drafted were on that roster as well? Come on, man. Can Rex Ryan take credit too because he coached many of the players who ended the drought? This goes back to my original point how some people will bend over backwards to validate Whaley versus accepting his tenure for what it was. Most of the players from 2017 were either, drafted, signed, or retained by Whaley. That team ended the drought. You can assign credit however you would like but it would clearly be Whaley that would get the most credit out of that era for ending the drought. I am actually hard pressed to remember what Bean had actually done to contribute to the 2017 season at that point. Remember Whaley left and he came in after the draft. I know we traded Watkins and Darby for some draft picks Gaines I believe and the got robbed by Carolina with the Kelvin Benjamin trade but at that point the plan was to build for the future not win now. Don’t get me wrong Bean is a far better GM than Whaley. However there were some positives he had including his contributions to ending a 17 year period of futility. Edited January 29, 2021 by BillsfaninChicago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Doug who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 When your a good GM you have a good chance of being pickup by another team if you are fired. When your a solid GM you have a slight chance of catching on somewhere else and staying in the NFL in some capacity. When you suck ass as a GM you are right where Whaley is, out of the NFL with no team wanting anything to do with you in any capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Jesus Christ. 10 pages? Who the hell cares what Whaley says? We all saw a poor coaching effort last Sunday. Move on, people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, eball said: Jesus Christ. 10 pages? Who the hell cares what Whaley says? We all saw a poor coaching effort last Sunday. Move on, people. I would just like to say Whaley sucks one more time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 2:26 PM, JohnNord said: Of course....that’s because you can’t replace all 53 players on a roster at once. That logic would give any past regime credit for the previous regime’s success. Like I said, Beane and McDermott got rid of a lot of Whaley guys in 2017 and by the end of 2018 almost all of them were gone. Did Marv Levy and Buddy Nix helped end the drought too because players they drafted were on that roster as well? Come on, man. Can Rex Ryan take credit too because he coached many of the players who ended the drought? This goes back to my original point how some people will bend over backwards to validate Whaley versus accepting his tenure for what it was. The love for Whaley is simple. He made a couple moves for big name guys. Whaley and Brandon made moves for headlines, and some fans think that equals quality. You are correct, Marv’s results were the same as GM. Except Marv had guys like Keith Ellison on the roster, while Whaley brought some well known guys on the team. The quality was the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I said going in to the game to play aggressive. Specially when you know the opponent is a speedy and high scoring crew. I knew it was over when KC scored the second TD. You have to kick the h*ck out of the champs to beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 10:20 AM, C.Biscuit97 said: Again, is he wrong? I played football a long time and it’s nit great for your body or brain. Read about Junior Seau. Should Whaley said it no? But he’s not wrong. He's not wrong, but if you work in professional football league, it was an extremely tone deaf move on his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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