Big Turk Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 This is some great stuff... Explanation of Defensive Fronts Explanation of the "46" Defense: Explanation of Cover 1 Variations: Explanation of pass rush 'games': Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Rex Ryan might have run the most complex defense in NFL history. Most fans consider him to be a buffoon. It's somewhere in between but the reality is that you don't need to be a genius to understand the game of football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Rex Ryan might have run the most complex defense in NFL history. Most fans consider him to be a buffoon. It's somewhere in between but the reality is that you don't need to be a genius to understand the game of football. Rex's defense is complex and very effective...if you have the perfect personnel for it, i.e., two lockdown corners and rangey DEs and OLBs. But if you have that kind of personnel you can be just as effective running a simpler defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Rex and Rob know their stuff. Not sure about Rob, but Rex's issue is being lazy and unwilling to adapt. McDermott puts in a ton of work. He is constantly trying to get better and get the team better. Rex is nothing like that. He doesn't have the drive to succeed like McDermott does. Just now, BuffBillsForLife said: Rex's defense is complex and very effective...if you have the perfect personnel for it, i.e., two lockdown corners and rangey DEs and OLBs. But if you have that kind of personnel you can be just as effective running a simpler defense. I think NFL offenses caught up and figured out how to attack his defense. And he didn't adapt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said: Rex's defense is complex and very effective...if you have the perfect personnel for it, i.e., two lockdown corners and rangey DEs and OLBs. But if you have that kind of personnel you can be just as effective running a simpler defense. i worry this has become an issue w what we are running now too. it's not anti fragile, a single mistake or guys who can't win one on one and we get trucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just like you can say Belicheat is a good HC because of Brady the same can be said for DC’s. Coaching is a big part of it but if you have the 2000 Ravens defense do you really need a good DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Rex Ryan might have run the most complex defense in NFL history. Most fans consider him to be a buffoon. It's somewhere in between but the reality is that you don't need to be a genius to understand the game of football. Yes it was so complex it never worked here and one of the reasons we were constantly having to rush defensive players onto the field and players didnt know what top do often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Coaching is the ultimate chess game on steroids. All your weak links, player injury’s, formations, personnel and tendencies will be exposed and exploited. Players like Bruce Smith, Ted Washington, Thurman Thomas and Andre Reed just to name a few are the type of players that break defenses/offenses. All of these guys demand a double team to be even slightly slowed down. The only player I can name on our current roster that demands a double team is Diggs and maybe Hughes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 He was always decent on UK TV Rob. Right mix of Xs and Os but entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 What I have heard about Rex's defense is that you need a very cerebral leader on the field to make the calls and get everybody else set up. Ed Reed was that guy. and then Jim Leonhard was that guy. I've read that the jets used him on the field, past his physical expiration date, because his presence in making the calls was so important. and the jets defense was pretty decent under rex, iirc. apparently buffalo didn't have that guy. or maybe i read or heard something that is more fiction than fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRHater69 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I think Aaron Williams was supposed to be that guy and Jarvis Landry cheap shotted him out of a career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, colin said: i worry this has become an issue w what we are running now too. it's not anti fragile, a single mistake or guys who can't win one on one and we get trucked. Our defense is pretty simple and relies mor on execution that complication. Hyde and Poyer are excellent at disguising things on the back end and we are typically good at simulating pressure but overall it is a simple defense. Edited January 26, 2021 by Big Turk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I love the Ryans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 54 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Our defense is pretty simple and relies mor on execution that complication. Hyde and Poyer are excellent at disguising things on the back end and we are typically good at simulating pressure but overall it is a simple defense. agreed, but we can't disguise the font as well in our normal formation, and like edmunds biting or one guy filling the wrong gap (butler on the goal line, as erik turner pointed out on twitter) and the whole thing is toast. vs an O with limitations on what it can do, or when we can know what they do (this is where a lead helps) it is a good risk reward D, but it's too balanced for the modern NFL, it defends all of the field decently by design, but when someone is creative or baits us, it creates holes and doesn't attack or take away their strength well enough. that's what i mean about not being anti fragile, in too many instances a single guy getting beat or making a mental mistake kills us. that's why indy was able to truck us for 14 points super fast, and why kc smoked us, and why we didn't stop a TE all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Rex Ryan might have run the most complex defense in NFL history. Most fans consider him to be a buffoon. It's somewhere in between but the reality is that you don't need to be a genius to understand the game of football. I consider him a buffoon, but it's not because I don't recognize him as a brilliant and innovative defensive football mind in his time. It's because by the time he was signed as HC of the Bills, he no longer had the passion and dedication for the game to lead a team properly, and because by some accounts he may never have had the detail-orientation and drive for self-scouting and self-improvement to lead a team to a championship. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I would venture anyone with his experience could explain these things as well as him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Rex Ryan might have run the most complex defense in NFL history. Most fans consider him to be a buffoon. It's somewhere in between but the reality is that you don't need to be a genius to understand the game of football. Jim Leonhard ran that D! Or was the only one capable of running that D. But yeah, you’re basically right. 2 hours ago, Man with No Name said: What I have heard about Rex's defense is that you need a very cerebral leader on the field to make the calls and get everybody else set up. Ed Reed was that guy. and then Jim Leonhard was that guy. I've read that the jets used him on the field, past his physical expiration date, because his presence in making the calls was so important. and the jets defense was pretty decent under rex, iirc. apparently buffalo didn't have that guy. or maybe i read or heard something that is more fiction than fact. It was always Leonhard. He followed Rex from Baltimore to the Jets, and then Leonhard followed Pettine to Buffalo in 2013 and Cleveland in 2014. He played for one year in Denver in 2012, and The Jets’ D under Rex cratered that year. Leonhard was basically the on-field coordinator for that system. Without him, it fails, which means something obvious: any system reliant on the participation of one undrafted safety long past his sell-by date to succeed is a bad system. Edited January 27, 2021 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, colin said: agreed, but we can't disguise the font as well in our normal formation, and like edmunds biting or one guy filling the wrong gap (butler on the goal line, as erik turner pointed out on twitter) and the whole thing is toast. vs an O with limitations on what it can do, or when we can know what they do (this is where a lead helps) it is a good risk reward D, but it's too balanced for the modern NFL, it defends all of the field decently by design, but when someone is creative or baits us, it creates holes and doesn't attack or take away their strength well enough. that's what i mean about not being anti fragile, in too many instances a single guy getting beat or making a mental mistake kills us. that's why indy was able to truck us for 14 points super fast, and why kc smoked us, and why we didn't stop a TE all season. This year for whatever reason yes. Last year and the year before that not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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