Zerovoltz Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I am starting this thread because I keep reading over and over again here, that Tre White didn’t show up, is overpaid etc. This simply isn’t true. I went back after the game to see what White was being asked to do. He was actually asked to play man coverage on Hill or Kielce several times, and when he was manned up on Hill, Hill only had a few catches for a few yards. Same with Kielce. The problem was NOT Tre, but it’s that you only have one of him. He is a great player and worth every penny. 8 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 He may not have been the problem but he definitely wasn't the solution either. 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The only way to stop KC is to have a great scheme and ability to execute it in 3 phases of the game. Simply put we are not at their level. As far as the defense goes I felt we needed to generate pressure more consistently with our front 4. Perhaps AJ makes a huge leap in year 2. But the fact remains, we do not have an elite pass rusher. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Coaching staff laid the biggest egg with the game plan, no doubt. Romo mentioned the BB blue print when playing against KC that I have no clue why Buffalo didn't do something similar. (Single high safety, double Hill, chip Kelce at the line... force other guys to beat you.) There's not a single human on the planet that can cover Hill 1 on 1 in man starting at the line of scrimmage. The coaching staff is to blame for White looking bad at times. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: I am starting this thread because I keep reading over and over again here, that Tre White didn’t show up, is overpaid etc. This simply isn’t true. I went back after the game to see what White was being asked to do. He was actually asked to play man coverage on Hill or Kielce several times, and when he was manned up on Hill, Hill only had a few catches for a few yards. Same with Kielce. The problem was NOT Tre, but it’s that you only have one of him. He is a great player and worth every penny. Thanks. Now go away. No one needs a Chiefs fan telling us why the Bills lost. I hope Brady and the Bucs throttle Thug Hill and the rest of the Chiefs. Edited January 25, 2021 by BTB 4 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Some of the issue was gameplan. We had him pretending to be in Zone then coming up to pick up receiver in man. And unfortunately KC saw it coming every time...so he was set up to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: I am starting this thread because I keep reading over and over again here, that Tre White didn’t show up, is overpaid etc. This simply isn’t true. I went back after the game to see what White was being asked to do. He was actually asked to play man coverage on Hill or Kielce several times, and when he was manned up on Hill, Hill only had a few catches for a few yards. Same with Kielce. The problem was NOT Tre, but it’s that you only have one of him. He is a great player and worth every penny. Thanks ZeroVoltz - please take down Tampa and TB. Hill's 71 yd catch and run was when he was in a matchup on slot man #24 Taron Johnson. And multiple Bills missed tackles aided the scamper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: I am starting this thread because I keep reading over and over again here, that Tre White didn’t show up, is overpaid etc. This simply isn’t true. I went back after the game to see what White was being asked to do. He was actually asked to play man coverage on Hill or Kielce several times, and when he was manned up on Hill, Hill only had a few catches for a few yards. Same with Kielce. The problem was NOT Tre, but it’s that you only have one of him. He is a great player and worth every penny. Tales 2 Tre Whites to cover Hill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The Bills had a bad gameplan more than lack of execution. The plan to play zone and let Kelce be open continuously did not work out well. The Cheifs played man, took advantage of the fact the NFL throws less penalties in the playoffs by being agressive with our WR's. We did not choose to take advantage of that as much. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: I am starting this thread because I keep reading over and over again here, that Tre White didn’t show up, is overpaid etc. This simply isn’t true. I went back after the game to see what White was being asked to do. He was actually asked to play man coverage on Hill or Kielce several times, and when he was manned up on Hill, Hill only had a few catches for a few yards. Same with Kielce. The problem was NOT Tre, but it’s that you only have one of him. He is a great player and worth every penny. Then honestly I don't know why he wasn't matched up against Hill basically all night--follow the Hoodie's mantra of take at least the one thing away from your opponent that they do best, and hope that the rest isn't enough anymore to beat you. Of course, with the # of weapons the Chiefs have, that's a tall order regardless, I do get that. But he never should've been allowed to set a new personal playoff record best in yards, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Thanks ZeroVoltz - please take down Tampa and TB. Hill's 71 yd catch and run was when he was in a matchup on slot man #24 Taron Johnson. And multiple Bills missed tackles aided the scamper. I would say missed opportunites to make a tackle vs actual missed tackles.....they seemed to just prefer to have a foot race with him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 We had no pass rush. None at all. When you play a soft zone you absolutely need a pass rush. If you don’t get to the QB there will always be someone open eventually 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, mattynh said: The Bills had a bad gameplan more than lack of execution. The plan to play zone and let Kelce be open continuously did not work out well. The Cheifs played man, took advantage of the fact the NFL throws less penalties in the playoffs by being agressive with our WR's. We did not choose to take advantage of that as much. Agree. To let the KC receivers run free was idiotic. Needed a big game from Hughes to win his matchup and generate pressure which didn’t happen. Getting Star back and adding in a proven pass rusher are a must. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Brennan Huff said: We had no pass rush. None at all. When you play a soft zone you absolutely need a pass rush. If you don’t get to the QB there will always be someone open eventually Exactly this. Tre had a bad game. The bigger issue was letting the best Quarterback in the league sit in the pocket untouched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, mattynh said: The Bills had a bad gameplan more than lack of execution. The plan to play zone and let Kelce be open continuously did not work out well. The Cheifs played man, took advantage of the fact the NFL throws less penalties in the playoffs by being agressive with our WR's. We did not choose to take advantage of that as much. agreed. the coaching and game plans were terrible. the OL added to it with its terrible execution. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said: Agree. To let the KC receivers run free was idiotic. Needed a big game from Hughes to win his matchup and generate pressure which didn’t happen. Getting Star back and adding in a proven pass rusher are a must. What impact would Star have had against KC? Little to none as he isn't a pass rusher, and would have been on the sidelines more often than not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokes84 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 We don’t have defenders that can matchup with their playmakers. That includes Tre. He’s not the problem, obviously, but you have to be honest about what we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: agreed. the coaching and game plans were terrible. the OL added to it with its terrible execution. Don't forget the DL... they were awful as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: The only way to stop KC is to have a great scheme and ability to execute it in 3 phases of the game. Simply put we are not at their level. As far as the defense goes I felt we needed to generate pressure more consistently with our front 4. Perhaps AJ makes a huge leap in year 2. But the fact remains, we do not have an elite pass rusher. AJ Klein is role player who they overpaid at 6 million, Beane needs to spend his money more wisely if we expect to beat KC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Hill is impossible to cover one on one in man. He's just too quick. You have to beat them by getting to Mahomes. We didn't have the man power up front. But lets not kid ourselves, no one has really figured out how to stop the Chiefs offense since 2018. Some of us are acting like the Bills failed, we didn't, the Chiefs are better....the Chiefs didn't fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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