Seoulofstone Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Take a look at the landscape. https://www.footballdb.com/stats/qb-records.html Now , I'm aware that many people aren't enamoured with QB win/loss as a stat, but it certainly tells an interesting story, Deshaun Watson despite stellar QB play (including the playoffs) can be overtaken by Josh this year, despite being consistently excellent since the start of his career. Many of the QBs listed above Allen are in the twilight of their career. There are (by my reckoning) 8 active QBs who have won a superbowl. Of those, Foles and Flacco are reserves. Meanwhile, Brady, Roethlisberger, Brees, are diminished versions of themselves with very little time left. That leaves only 3 QBs who are proven with plenty of time left- Rodgers, Wilson and Mahomes. In the tier I categorise as young and upcoming, I would put Allen, Watson, Prescott, Jackson. Viewed in that context and faced now with an opportunity to make a name for himself in the playoffs it's an exciting time. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ Meanwhile Coach McDermott is up to a .594 win percentage. Anyone remember when he was dubbed Mc Clappy ? Oddly haven't heard that for a while. The future looks bright and I shall enjoy checking in on their progress up these tables as time passes. Go Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 28 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: Take a look at the landscape. https://www.footballdb.com/stats/qb-records.html Now , I'm aware that many people aren't enamoured with QB win/loss as a stat, but it certainly tells an interesting story, Deshaun Watson despite stellar QB play (including the playoffs) can be overtaken by Josh this year, despite being consistently excellent since the start of his career. Many of the QBs listed above Allen are in the twilight of their career. There are (by my reckoning) 8 active QBs who have won a superbowl. Of those, Foles and Flacco are reserves. Meanwhile, Brady, Roethlisberger, Brees, are diminished versions of themselves with very little time left. That leaves only 3 QBs who are proven with plenty of time left- Rodgers, Wilson and Mahomes. In the tier I categorise as young and upcoming, I would put Allen, Watson, Prescott, Jackson. Viewed in that context and faced now with an opportunity to make a name for himself in the playoffs it's an exciting time. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ Meanwhile Coach McDermott is up to a .594 win percentage. Anyone remember when he was dubbed Mc Clappy ? Oddly haven't heard that for a while. The future looks bright and I shall enjoy checking in on their progress up these tables as time passes. Go Bills. He's tied with that "Pear shaped loser" Mike Sherman as he was dubbed on the Jim Rome show by the Clones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saundena Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Seoulofstone said: In the tier I categorise as young and upcoming, I would put Allen, Watson, Prescott, Jackson. Viewed in that context and faced now with an opportunity to make a name for himself in the playoffs it's an exciting time. I'd add to that list Herbert. I think he's going to be a stud- even if he's only played one season. Also, I remember how midway through out the 2018 seasons, I looked back and was horrified about the number of times we go blown out by good teams- The Ravens, Chargers, Packers, Colts, Patriots (x2), Bears in 2018 and the Jets, Saints, Chargers, Pats (x2) in 2017. Now, were the ones blowing out good teams consistently! I remember how pissed off I got hearing McDermott talk about the process as if he was an organizational turn-around expert, who had a strong track record of turning around trash-heap organizations. What doe he know. Our worst game of the year was the Titans game (lost to a good team) which was surrounded by weird circumstances. McD had his own growing pains as a coach, but held true to what he believed and did the things he needed to do to become a better coach. Looking back, the improvement was incremental but noticeable and we kept moving forward. The NFL is littered with the bones of 1st time head coaches who aren't able to improve like our McClappy did Thank God the Pegula's recognized their mistakes and hired McBean. It was a little unconventional to hire McD before Bean, but ultimately didn't matter since they are lock step on seemingly everything in the organization. Edited January 6, 2021 by saundena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 52 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: Meanwhile Coach McDermott is up to a .594 win percentage. Good enough for 41st all time and Allen is still a few months shy of 25. Just getting started... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I believe that winning percentage is the most critical quarterback attribute .. and therefore I am advocating we start the QB percentage leader among active players .. Step up Devin Singletary and your perfect record as starting QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Seoulofstone said: That leaves only 3 QBs who are proven with plenty of time left- Rodgers, Wilson and Mahomes. Rodgers is 37...you think he'll be around at Brady's age? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, StHustle said: Rodgers is 37...you think he'll be around at Brady's age? With Rodgers I think it comes down to how into football he is. He doesnt look like he is slowing down anytime, but I am not sure he is as obsessive about football as Brady. I'd give it four more years for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Seoulofstone said: Take a look at the landscape. https://www.footballdb.com/stats/qb-records.html Now , I'm aware that many people aren't enamoured with QB win/loss as a stat, but it certainly tells an interesting story, Deshaun Watson despite stellar QB play (including the playoffs) can be overtaken by Josh this year, despite being consistently excellent since the start of his career. Having an outstanding QB gets you closer to being a competitive team. Trading his #1 WR out from under him before the season doesn't help you get better, nor does having Bill O'Brien as your HC. As an example, Aaron Rodgers was 5-6 in the playoffs from 2011-2018 under Mike McCarthy. Is that a reflection on Rodgers, who made the Pro Bowl 6 of those 8 seasons and was injured for much of 2017? Or is it something else. This isn't a decision of one thing or another. It requires a much deeper dive. Reminds me of the people who hype W-L totals for MLB pitchers. Run support is a key factor in those situations, as is bullpen strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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