LeviF Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Ongoing argument between several notable poasters as to what the second-most important position on a football team is. You'll note I've put EDGE as its own thing since could be talking about two very different positions with OLBs and DEs in 3-4 vs 4-3, etc. Most important is undoubtedly QB. @aristocrat come make your case for the kicker! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Behind qb it's the kicker. Who is respsonsible for the most points besides the qb? Kicker. Especially being a fan of a team where if our kicker had made a famous kick we wouldn't be the butt of so many jokes. With how tight the average games are the kicker has a huge responsible to the team. Hell, Bass scored all the points vs the Jets this year which helped propel us to the 2 seed. 10 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Behind qb it's the kicker. Who is respsonsible for the most points besides the qb? Kicker. Especially being a fan of a team where if our kicker had made a famous kick we wouldn't be the butt of so many jokes. With how tight the average games are the kicker has a huge responsible to the team. Hell, Bass scored all the points vs the Jets this year which helped propel us to the 2 seed. I said WR, but you can make a very good case for K. Over the course of a season, the difference between a really good kicker and a below average one could be as many as 30 points and could win or lose two or three games. Not sure you could say that about any other position besides QB. It’s a highly underrated position and the playoff teams who don’t have a good one are at a real disadvantage. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) I would say it’s a tie with the guy who protects the QB’s blind side and the person who is supposed to sack it. LT and DE are the obvious choices but our defense has made a huge turnaround that coincides with Milano getting back to full strength. I believe in the near future LB’s that can cover, tackle and pressure the QB will be the new 2nd highest paid position. Edited January 5, 2021 by Call_Of_Ktulu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 The Center. Only other guy that touches the ball every play. He's the leader of the oline and makes as many reads as the QB. You get an elite one you're golden. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I say CB. The most potent weapon on offense aside from the QB are the WR's and if you can essentially shut down the top weapon then it opens up a lot of things that the defense can do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I'm going with LT for most right-handed QB teams, RT for the rare lefty out there. With the new protective rules on QBs these days, maybe it is less so. But a good blind side hit on a QB is about the most satisfying play in football. Especially if it results in a fumble too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 30 years ago i bet RB would be in the top 3, now just an after thought, a reflection of the NFL evolution. I went Kicker, NFL is all about parity so you go with the clutch kicker that can win the close games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I originally said DE then read your post and changed it to EDGE. QB is the most important position. Getting to the opposing QB is therefore the 2nd most important position. That's my simplistic argument. I like the arguments for Kicker, Center, and CB too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: The Center. Only other guy that touches the ball every play. He's the leader of the oline and makes as many reads as the QB. You get an elite one you're golden. I considered Center, you get a great one that cal handle the blocking assignments at the LOS you have something special. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) Where is the holder? 19 minutes ago, Magox said: I say CB. The most potent weapon on offense aside from the QB are the WR's and if you can essentially shut down the top weapon then it opens up a lot of things that the defense can do. Agree here 39 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Behind qb it's the kicker. Who is respsonsible for the most points besides the qb? Kicker. Especially being a fan of a team where if our kicker had made a famous kick we wouldn't be the butt of so many jokes. With how tight the average games are the kicker has a huge responsible to the team. Hell, Bass scored all the points vs the Jets this year which helped propel us to the 2 seed. Put the best kicker in the league on the Jets. What changes? Edited January 5, 2021 by wAcKy ZeBrA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Where is the holder? Agree here Put the best kicker in the league on the Jets. What changes? put the worst kicker in the league on the bills and how many wins do we have? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Just now, aristocrat said: put the worst kicker in the league on the bills and how many wins do we have? Still 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 20 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: 30 years ago i bet RB would be in the top 3, now just an after thought, a reflection of the NFL evolution. Don't tell Derrick Henry that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: put the worst kicker in the league on the bills and how many wins do we have? 12 or 13 Edited January 5, 2021 by wAcKy ZeBrA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Where is the holder? Agree here Put the best kicker in the league on the Jets. What changes? Gase's head falls off while attempting to watch the kicks? 🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: put the worst kicker in the league on the bills and how many wins do we have? Now that I have obliged maybe you'll answer my hypothetical - How many wins do the Jets have with the leagues best kicker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 41 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I would say it’s a tie with the guy who protects the QB’s blind side and the person who is supposed to sack it. LT and DE are the obvious choices but our defense has made a huge turnaround that coincides with Milano getting back to full strength. I believe in the near future LB’s that can cover, tackle and pressure the QB will be the new 2nd highest paid position. /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Someone had to vote for the long snapper, glad I was the first! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Just now, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Now that I have obliged maybe you'll answer my hypothetical - How many wins do the Jets have with the leagues best kicker? maybe 1 or 2 more. but put the best corner on that team and they're still not winning more than 1 more game maybe. that team is bad all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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