RichRiderBills Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Tua ...just a guy. Herbert is awesome...we are in for a tough one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, Scott7975 said: The "real deal" is barely over 50% with 56 yards in an entire half. He looks ok because of their defensive luck. Yeah, Tua isn’t what some think (at least not yet). It’s his surrounding cast that’s making him look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, Groin said: I've kind of got to shrug at this. Allen has been really good this year by and large, and that is a fact. Tua could be good (I wish no harm on him, but as a divisional rival, I hope that he sucks), but there is zero reason to prop him up right now. None. Zip. Nada. Yup, I agree!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Yay for Broncos beating Dolphins right now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: The "real deal" is barely over 50% with 56 yards in an entire half. He looks ok because of their defensive luck. Equating out to a robust 3.7 yards per attempt btw. Peterman numbers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Putin said: Miami with 82 yards of total offense in the first half This is why I’m not too worried about the Dolphins even if they win today. Just seems like a mirage so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: The quick release is partly a function of the plays they’re calling for him, but he’s not terrible. Again, let’s see how he’s doing after 8-10 starts when there’s a decent amount of pro tape on him. Not knocking or praising the guy just yet. To be fair he has always had a quick release and he throws a pretty ball. You need more than that. I think he has been "okay" through 3 and a half games. But too early for definitive judgments either way. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Tom Donahoe was regarded by many as an astute football mind. In reality he was the gigantic idiot that gave credibility to the ineptitude known as Greggggggggggggggggggggg Williams. How this guy has a job is mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, GunnerBill said: To be fair he has always had a quick release and he throws a pretty ball. You need more than that. I think he has been "okay" through 3 and a half games. But too early for definitive judgments either way. exactly. I was more referring to the one read stuff they give him, but he’s always had a natural quick release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: This is why I’m not too worried about the Dolphins even if they win today. Just seems like a mirage so far. More then anything I would LOVE to see the Jets get their first win against the dolphins High Football IQ might not survive this one Edited November 22, 2020 by Putin 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Yes, but then you have to ask why the heaps of praise for other certain types of players playing the position. It's an intent that is transpatent IMO. Like sports talk has become to akin to paid news, all opinion and no facts. Not sure exactly what “paid news” is, but I have a suspicion. Also why not just come out and say what you mean by “other certain types” of QBs. Don’t leave us in suspense Gene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, 4merper4mer said: Tom Donahoe was regarded by many as an astute football mind. In reality he was the gigantic idiot that gave credibility to the ineptitude known as Greggggggggggggggggggggg Williams. How this guy has a job is mind boggling. In fairness, we have the benefit of hindsight here. On paper, the Bills made sensible moves early in that regime. Unfortunately, Greg(g x 1000) turned out to be a terrible HC, and Donahoe's moves were mostly of no value or impact. What's incredible to me is that we actually saw the team *degrade* after they left. Holy smoke! Anyway, like I said, hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 The Dolphins should have drafted Justin Herbert,what a shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, HOUSE said: The Dolphins should have drafted Justin Herbert,what a shame Thank God they didn’t 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: Yeah, Tua isn’t what some think (at least not yet). It’s his surrounding cast that’s making him look good. ...and dumb luck. AZ kicker comes up short on a 49 yard game tying FG against Miami. Murray connects on a miracle Hail Mary against us. Then, of course, opposing teams seem obsessed with giving the Dolphins huge breaks every game since Tua took over. Edited November 22, 2020 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: There is no justification, but yet you see it, just see Willie McGinest and David Carr as just a couple examples. There is a desired narrative, Allen had had to shut them up with stats, but that still doesn't work on people like Bradshaw lol. As a WNY native, I don't get the fixation on national media, and Bradshaw is long past his shelf date, which means that I even give less of a ***** about that guy. I don't care if they hate on the Bills. At all. This is a good and solid team, and I don't give a stink if they are ignored on the national stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Putin said: More then anything I would LOVE to see the Jets get their first win against the dolphins High Football IQ might not survive this one Nice one, Putin! i’m just ready for the dolphins train to be done, because like I said, I think it’s a mirage. They’re definitely getting better but they’re not as good as people are touting them to be. 1 minute ago, SCBills said: ...and dumb luck. AZ kicker comes up short on a 49 yard game tying FG against Miami. Murray connects on a miracle Hail Mary against us. Then, of course, opposing teams seem obsessed with giving the Dolphins huge breaks every game since Tua took over. I hear ya, bro! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: I don't care so much either, and what I'm talking about is not Bills centric. Nobody should care. Good football is good football, and everything else is narrative. Tua, as an example, has not been great, and does not deserve praise to be delivered to him by the crock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 41 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Go find a post where I even said Tua was good... OK, provided we agree that the clear implication and not the exact word "good" suffices....to most folks - "right QB" "clean where Allen looks messy" "so far seems to meet all the hype" would sure seem to imply that's what you believe. 🤷♂️ https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/228648-anyone-else-wake-up-still-feeling-very-optimistic/page/5/?tab=comments#comment-6872345 "Tua so far seems to meet all the hype, and why some pundits had him above Allen before he even took an NFL snap" https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/228648-anyone-else-wake-up-still-feeling-very-optimistic/page/5/?tab=comments#comment-6872379 "As far asTua , yeah, way too early, but so far he's looking "clean", as some would say. Where Allen at times still looks "messy"." https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/228648-anyone-else-wake-up-still-feeling-very-optimistic/?do=findComment&comment=6872357 "not sure why this can't be correct forTua ... That's subjective. We all know it's about drafting the right QB." 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Loving this Donkeys-Fish game. Either way, we've seen enough through one half to dismiss all of the "Dolphins powerhouse" chatter. Denver is awful, and Denver is winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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