Doc Brown Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 8 hours ago, JaCrispy said: 4 yr/$140 million extension.... imo, a fair deal, because he wouldn’t have to play next year on his rookie salary...a total of 5 more years after this one... I'm more on board with this although you'd pry have to go up to 150 million. His style of play is similar to Cam Newton's so you don't want a Patrick Mahomes type contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said: 2021 he is still under his rookie contract. 2022 will be the start of his expensive paycheck whether it is an extension or his 5th year option. The Bills will not be letting him get to the 5th year option. They will be getting his contract done next off season just like Watson and Mahomes had theirs done in beginning of year 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 9:37 AM, Ramza86 said: Assuming Josh continues his great QB play throughout this year and next year....what is he going to fetch? I can imagine its going to be near 40 million a year. Good lord thats a lot of money. Pay it. lol I can care less.... 😄 ... we've shown that we can draft well ... we'll be letting guy's walk to pay him but... I don't care. Better then being back in QB purgatory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 7:28 AM, Alphadawg7 said: While there is a half season and playoffs to still be played, I would argue he is already a top 8 QB right now. That being said, I don't know when Josh gets his extension, it may not even be next year, he is only on year 3 of his deal, but I think the amount of the extension will be a 2 part equation. First part, what did he do in the playoffs. A subpar playoff game and early exit isn't going to help his case on the contract size. Two, what kind of home town discount is he willing to include, if at all. This is what we know about Josh. He is one of the single most competitive players in the league and wants to win more than anything else. He truly loves Buffalo, its fan base, and playing with this team. He loves his brothers in that locker room. He is a small town guy and doesn't seem to prioritize money over all other things. Its always foolish to just assume a player will give a home town discount. Mahomes has a lot of the same traits above and seems to love playing in KC, yet he didn't afford them a home town discount by any means. However, Mahomes had also already won a SB, and that changes the mentality a bit too. If Josh and the Bills come up short of a SB trophy this year, that hunger is going to still be there, especially if they get even closer to it this year. I can see Josh wanting the team to have a little extra fire power in keeping as many guys as they can and some flexibility in adding some more quality pieces around him for them to all have an even greater shot at the trophy. Then there are just guys that when you really look at them you just feel like he is the kind of guy that prioritizes winning and staying where he loves to play over money regardless of what they have already accomplished. And Josh is the rare guy I think fits that description, so while no home town discount is assured by any means, I do feel its going to be a strong possibility that Beane and Allen will structure a deal that allows Allen to really cash in but still not be a cap killing contract that would make it harder for Beane to truly keep a championship TEAM on the field. I’d like to know what he drives. If he’s following his roots and driving a pickup, that’s good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 10 hours ago, ganesh said: The Bills will not be letting him get to the 5th year option. They will be getting his contract done next off season just like Watson and Mahomes had theirs done in beginning of year 4 That is likely but the 4th year rookie deal is still in effect. Mahomes I believe is still getting paid on his rookie deal this season. His contract new contract goes into effect next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 54 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: That is likely but the 4th year rookie deal is still in effect. Mahomes I believe is still getting paid on his rookie deal this season. His contract new contract goes into effect next season. No. He is playing under his 5t year option next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) It makes sense to do the extension this off season. Even if he's great and we make a run to AFC title game he still has two years of bad tape out there that will keep the number down. Hard to see him getting 35M+ without making the SB. If you wait and he's great in year four then you're paying top dollar and it'll be tough to win unless he's MVP level every year. Edited November 14, 2020 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 6 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: No. He is playing under his 5t year option next year. Nope. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/patrick-mahomes-21751/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 8:21 AM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: W/o major restructuring there is no cap space to pay him big bucks in 2021. sure they can extend give him a new contract Again there is no cap space in 2021. He's already under contract in 2021, we don't need to deal with 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Home town discount anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 8 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: That is likely but the 4th year rookie deal is still in effect. Mahomes I believe is still getting paid on his rookie deal this season. His contract new contract goes into effect next season. Might be...but he would have got his upfront bonus already. > Though Mahomes' contract features $141.428 million in guarantees over 12 years, he was guaranteed only $63.082 million at signing. That $63.082 million includes Mahomes' signing bonus, his base salary for the next three years and his 2021 and 2022 roster bonuses. Which means Mahomes' contract essentially will be a year-to-year deal starting in 2023. 5 hours ago, VW82 said: It makes sense to do the extension this off season. Even if he's great and we make a run to AFC title game he still has two years of bad tape out there that will keep the number down. Hard to see him getting 35M+ without making the SB. If you wait and he's great in year four then you're paying top dollar and it'll be tough to win unless he's MVP level every year. It doesn't matter. Even Mahomes contract from 2023 is year to year with exit clause for both team and player. It is 65M guaranteed money he is getting in the next two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 15 hours ago, Doc said: Nope. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/patrick-mahomes-21751/ I'm done trying to explain how this works. Just count the years in the link you posted and you can prove it to yourself. He signed a 10 year EXTENSION that starts in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 As much as the Bills can afford -and it will likely include some RobertKraftesque ‘team’ shenanigans (partial ownership/personal services contract/creative nefarious contract add ons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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