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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/week-8-takeaways-give-it-up-for-the-dolphins-the-best-team-in-the-afc-east-183728407.html

 

Week 8 takeaways: The Dolphins are the best team in the AFC East

Jeff Simmons
Mon, November 2, 2020, 1:37 PM EST
 
 

The Buffalo Bills’ victory over the New England Patriots was deemed by some as a changing of the guard in the AFC East, but the best team in the division didn’t play in that game. Believe it or not, the best team in the AFC East is the Miami Dolphins.

 

The Dolphins are playing at a far higher level than the Bills over the last month, as Josh Allen’s previous issues have resurfaced. Miami has won three straight games, including an impressive 28-17 victory over the Los Angeles Rams in Week 8 with next to no production from rookie QB Tua Tagovailoa in his NFL debut. Alternatively, the Bills have just one win in their last four weeks and needed to force a fumble deep in their own territory to hold off a late surge from the rather underwhelming Patriots.

 

There is plenty of evidence to support Miami’s legitimacy. The Dolphins’ point differential, an important measure of overall quality, is plus-58 (fifth in AFC), while the Bills, who lead the division with a 6-2 record, have a negative point differential (minus-1), a sign they are winning with an u

nsustainable formula. Buffalo has been disappointing on defense, ranking 29th in the NFL in DVOA, while Miami ranks in the top-10.

Head coach Brian Flores has built a complete team in his second season with Miami. That much was evident Sunday, as they managed to rack up a passing, rushing, special teams and defensive touchdown against the Rams.

 

The Dolphins will certainly need more from Tagovailoa if they want to pass Buffalo in the standings. The rookie was just 12-of-22 for 93 yards and a touchdown, but Allen wasn’t much better on Sunday, going 11-of-18 for 154 yards with no scores through the air. Allen has not thrown a touchdown over his last two games, while his completion percentage has dropped considerably since his MVP-level start over the first four games.

 

In the first four games, Josh Allen had 21 completions of 20 yards or more. Over the last four games, he has four completions of 20 yards or more, two to wideouts.

Stefon Diggs had eight catches of 20 yards or more in the first four games, none in the last four.

— Jerry Sullivan (@ByJerrySullivan) November 2, 2020

Right now, Miami is a more complete team than Buffalo from top to bottom and Flores should be in the conversation for coach of the year.

 

This article is flawed in so many ways:

1st: The BILLS have more than one win in the last 4 weeks (2). The teams the BILLS lost to have 3 combined losses on the season

 

2nd: The guy wants to mention the point differential being a -1 means that we are not winning in a sustainable way. Ill tell you what, throwing for 93 yards which was what Tua passed for is not sustainable. 

 

3rd: The guy wants to use a Jerry Sullivan stat regarding Diggs having no 20 yard catches in the last 4 games. Well teams playing 2 high safety will slow down the deep passes so that stat means nothing in context. Last 4 games Diggs is averaging  7 catches 73 yards 

 

4th: The BILLS are basically 3 games ahead of the Dolphins in the standing. 2.5 games plus tiebreaker. You can never say a team that is 3 games back in the division after 8 weeks is better than the team leading the division. 

 

Get back to me when the Dolphins beat a team that the Bills have lost to on the schedule. Bills have already beat the Dolphins on the road to make it so bad. These writers will do anything for clicks.

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Aaronthebaron said:

“The Bills have 1 win in the last 4 weeks” what the hell does that mean?

Obviously, we went 0-2 vs the Titans and the chiefs in the same week? Get your math straight!

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Their supposed vaunted defense gave up 471 total yards!

 

Look, I won't take anything away from them. They're playing opportunistic football like the Titans and a win is a win. But can we stop acting like this team is some type of powerhouse that is to be reckoned with. Their QB threw for 90 yards for crying out loud.

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2 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Their supposed vaunted defense gave up 471 total yards!

 

Look, I won't take anything away from them. They're playing opportunistic football like the Titans and a win is a win. But can we stop acting like this team is some type of powerhouse that is to be reckoned with. Their QB threw for 90 yards for crying out loud.


I agree Miami is not a powerhouse. They are a good team, a sneaky team. I think the league wants the Dolphins to be good, but good under Fitz if that makes sense. Just sort of projecting Fitz as the starter, but he is not.  Tua did not look good...like at all. If that doesn't right quickly, Fitz is either back in, or they are not a threat to anybody and we will laugh at this in January

They do have an easy stretch coming up, so buckle up, they might get hyped a TON more if they string together some wins. 

I am concerned about Buffalo. Yes, lost to some very good teams, but we have been squeaking by. With all this offensive firepower, we should be averaging more than 19 pts per game over the last 4 weeks. We have not played any great defenses in that stretch. 

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10 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

We play better when we don’t get respect. Keep it coming.

So that's why we've let two bad teams stay so close the last two weeks it's all to flip the script and get our underdog status back.

 

 

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The Phins have a much easier schedule than the Bills do going forward.  That is the only thing in their favor.  If the Phins can score a defensive TD and special teams TD every week for the rest of the season like they did against the Rams,  they will be a threat to win the AFCE.  In the absence of the Phins setting all time NFL records for defensive and special teams scoring in a season, I think the Bills will probably squeak it out...

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1 hour ago, Protocal69 said:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/week-8-takeaways-give-it-up-for-the-dolphins-the-best-team-in-the-afc-east-183728407.html

 

Week 8 takeaways: The Dolphins are the best team in the AFC East

Jeff Simmons
Mon, November 2, 2020, 1:37 PM EST
 
 

The Buffalo Bills’ victory over the New England Patriots was deemed by some as a changing of the guard in the AFC East, but the best team in the division didn’t play in that game. Believe it or not, the best team in the AFC East is the Miami Dolphins.

 

The Dolphins are playing at a far higher level than the Bills over the last month, as Josh Allen’s previous issues have resurfaced. Miami has won three straight games, including an impressive 28-17 victory over the Los Angeles Rams in Week 8 with next to no production from rookie QB Tua Tagovailoa in his NFL debut. Alternatively, the Bills have just one win in their last four weeks and needed to force a fumble deep in their own territory to hold off a late surge from the rather underwhelming Patriots.

 

There is plenty of evidence to support Miami’s legitimacy. The Dolphins’ point differential, an important measure of overall quality, is plus-58 (fifth in AFC), while the Bills, who lead the division with a 6-2 record, have a negative point differential (minus-1), a sign they are winning with an u

nsustainable formula. Buffalo has been disappointing on defense, ranking 29th in the NFL in DVOA, while Miami ranks in the top-10.

Head coach Brian Flores has built a complete team in his second season with Miami. That much was evident Sunday, as they managed to rack up a passing, rushing, special teams and defensive touchdown against the Rams.

 

The Dolphins will certainly need more from Tagovailoa if they want to pass Buffalo in the standings. The rookie was just 12-of-22 for 93 yards and a touchdown, but Allen wasn’t much better on Sunday, going 11-of-18 for 154 yards with no scores through the air. Allen has not thrown a touchdown over his last two games, while his completion percentage has dropped considerably since his MVP-level start over the first four games.

 

In the first four games, Josh Allen had 21 completions of 20 yards or more. Over the last four games, he has four completions of 20 yards or more, two to wideouts.

Stefon Diggs had eight catches of 20 yards or more in the first four games, none in the last four.

— Jerry Sullivan (@ByJerrySullivan) November 2, 2020

Right now, Miami is a more complete team than Buffalo from top to bottom and Flores should be in the conversation for coach of the year.

 

This article is flawed in so many ways:

1st: The BILLS have more than one win in the last 4 weeks (2). The teams the BILLS lost to have 3 combined losses on the season

 

2nd: The guy wants to mention the point differential being a -1 means that we are not winning in a sustainable way. Ill tell you what, throwing for 93 yards which was what Tua passed for is not sustainable. 

 

3rd: The guy wants to use a Jerry Sullivan stat regarding Diggs having no 20 yard catches in the last 4 games. Well teams playing 2 high safety will slow down the deep passes so that stat means nothing in context. Last 4 games Diggs is averaging  7 catches 73 yards 

 

4th: The BILLS are basically 3 games ahead of the Dolphins in the standing. 2.5 games plus tiebreaker. You can never say a team that is 3 games back in the division after 8 weeks is better than the team leading the division. 

 

Get back to me when the Dolphins beat a team that the Bills have lost to on the schedule. Bills have already beat the Dolphins on the road to make it so bad. These writers will do anything for clicks.

 

 

 

 

The Bills have a 1.5 game lead plus tiebreaker, not 2.5 game lead. So I would eliminate point 4. Points 1-3 I would agree with. 

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First, calm down...

 

The Bills are 4-0 in the division vs 1-3 for Miami and that one win was against the hapless 0-6 Jets.

 

The Dolphins beat SF mostly because of Fitz having a hot hand 22 of 28 for 350 yards, 3 TDs...and then they benched him. That Broke his heart in doing so...

 

Miami is 11th in points scored, 28th in yards. Mostly because of Fitz who is now riding the pine. Miami defense is #1 in points allowed, 20th in yards allowed.

 

The Ball bounced their way against the Rams with 4 turnovers but were outgained in yards by 471 to 145...whoa! 

 

Their next game is against the Arizona Cardinals, which should be very telling. Then the Chargers, Broncos, Jets, Bengals, Chiefs, Patriots, Raiders, Bills.  

 

In my view it's probably good to be pushed a bit to keep winning. Also, it's way better to be in a slump in OCT/NOV rather then DEC/Jan. The Bills control their own destiny at this point and need to get back to that high powered, high scoring passing offense. Plus, they now have a running game. 

 

 

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Miami has a better coach and a better defense. Bills have a better skill players and a better QB.  

Miami has an easier schedule the rest of the way. 

Bills have been decimated by injury but none of them are season enders.  They can get some bodies back in the next couple of weeks, heal up at the bye week, and hopefully still add a player or two to the DL.  

 

Allen is better than Tua and that will be the deciding factor.   It will come down to who beats the Broncos and Chargers and then possibly the head to head which is in Buffalo.   

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26 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

First, calm down...

 

The Bills are 4-0 in the division vs 1-3 for Miami and that one win was against the hapless 0-6 Jets.

 

The Dolphins beat SF mostly because of Fitz having a hot hand 22 of 28 for 350 yards, 3 TDs...and then they benched him. That Broke his heart in doing so...

 

 

That bolded part hurts. Fitz didn't deserve to be benched when he was playing well. I hope the Phish regret it when it's all said and done. 

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3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Their supposed vaunted defense gave up 471 total yards!

 

They gave up some soft yards second half nursing a big lead but the defense won them that game. The Fins defense is a top 10 unit. Their problem is their offense was streaky under Fitz and likely takes an initial step back under Tua. I think long term the Dolphins are going to be a challenger to the Bills but I don't see it this year. The only way the Bills need to be worried is if they go 2-6 from this point.

 

Imagine a scenario where the Bills are 9-6 going into the final game against the 8-7 Fins..... even if we lost to them at that point they would equal the H2H, but unless we lose to the Pats with nothing to play for in week 16 they can't beat us on the divisional tiebreaker. It basically only becomes an issue in my mind if the Bills only win two more games. If we go 8-8 then yes, the Dolphins are a threat for the division. But I have the Bills winning 3 or 4 more games and if they do that then the Dolphins don't even come into the reckoning.

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