SoTier Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 35 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: None of this matters if our defense can’t get off the field. If the defense can't get off the field against the Jests, the Bills are toast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 The Bills will try to force the run vs. NY to get it going, thereby shortening the game and leaving the Jets to hang around. It will be like what Kansas City did. The Bills had no business being within a TD midway through the 4th Qtr. While we would all like to run the ball more effectively, Buffalo cannot get overly conservative against the Jets. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: What does this Coaching staff do to address the putrid 3rd quarter? Have putrid 1st, 2nd, and 4th quarters so the 3rd doesn't look as bad by comparison. It's such a crazy plan that it just might work (it wont) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: Keep 'em coming. I enjoy QB's throwing for 300 yards. Makes for the most part fun games. This game I do think 300 has meaning coming off the 2 losses. You go and watch that McD, 17-13 barnburner..... how do you think all of the cowboys fans felt about their losses before dak got hurt? i'm sure they were entertained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said: Let's face it, defenses have learned that the way to play Allen is to sit in soft zones and make him be patient and give him no big plays. Daboll and Allen need an effective counter to that strategy. A solid running game would certainly help. Is that what you saw the chiefs do to allen? Sit in a soft zone and make him be patient? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said: Let's face it, defenses have learned that the way to play Allen is to sit in soft zones and make him be patient and give him no big plays. Daboll and Allen need an effective counter to that strategy. A solid running game would certainly help. the other thing Allen could do is let coverage get deep then hit the dump off. If you watch, zones aren’t even covering the flats. Allen is the anti Trent. You can watch him go through his progressions and he sees the Check down, then is like eff that ... home run time! use the short pass as the running game since run blocking is struggling. Singletary might actually be more impactful catching and running dump offs vs handoffs 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: Does anything they do against the Jets even matter? I mean ill be cheering along for the W but its not like it will matter if we "look good" against the jets... On second thought, we should all just be praying for that outcome. Just don’t get any injuries and stomp them out quickly. The Jets are the equivalent of a top 10 team playing Western Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 55 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: the other thing Allen could do is let coverage get deep then hit the dump off. If you watch, zones aren’t even covering the flats. Allen is the anti Trent. You can watch him go through his progressions and he sees the Check down, then is like eff that ... home run time! use the short pass as the running game since run blocking is struggling. Singletary might actually be more impactful catching and running dump offs vs handoffs A 1000 x this ^^^^^^^. Post of the day, imho. Tear a page out of Andy Reid's Iggle days playbook where Staley & McCoy earned their pass-catching stripes and basically used a West-Coast style short passing game as his primary running attack that was difficult to contain. If our oppo keys on that, voila, deep lanes back open with a QB who can hit them. Why can't we do this? Motor & Moss both have decent hands and think of how deadly Thurman was back in the day while leading the league in combined yards from scrimmage because he was a beast both ways. Back to Reid's model--here's a 2012 article from Barnwell reviewing his time in Philly, with some salient points: "But, oh, that passing game. It eventually became the subject of derision in Philly, as fans and media members alike groused that the Eagles simply didn’t run the ball enough. Graphics departments churned out misleading cause-and-effect charts noting that the Eagles were 373-1 if they would just run the ball 35 times per game (without realizing that the Eagles would exclusively run the ball that frequently in games where they were ahead and killing clock). In reality, though, Reid’s Eagles didn’t fail because they weren’t running the ball frequently enough. If anything, throwing the ball that frequently contributed to their success! Reid’s pass-heavy attack anticipated the coming shift to pass-happy offenses and shotgun-reliant attacks that showed up toward the end of the last decade. The league is throwing passes on 56.4 percent of their offensive plays this year, which represents the highest rate that’s shown up during Reid’s tenure in Philadelphia. That’s actually just below Reid’s average pass rate of 57.0 percent, but it’s not a sign that Reid threw too much. The simple facts are that passes produce more yardage than run plays do: The average first-and-10 pass in a 14-point-or-fewer game last year produced 8.0 yards per attempt, even after you consider all the incompletions. Run plays averaged a mere 4.5 yards per attempt. You don’t want to throw the ball on every single first down because the first figure is larger than the second one, but it’s also clear that the equilibrium between the two figures — the point at which both figures are maximized for the largest possible gain on first down by your team — has yet to be reached.3 In addition to creating more big plays, that allowed the Eagles to build their offense around an undervalued asset class, specifically the undersized pass-catching running back." (emphasis supplied). https://grantland.com/features/bill-barnwell-takes-all-andy-reid-haters/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 What of they score like 38 points but Josh only has like 260 yards passing? Then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: What of they score like 38 points but Josh only has like 260 yards passing? Then what? Then it's prolly still been a good day, and Josh's yardage & points all came in the first half, and we never had to pass again in the 2nd . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Then it's prolly still been a good day, and Josh's yardage & points all came in the first half, and we never had to pass again in the 2nd . That's how a normal person feels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, SoTier said: I look at it this way. The Bills are not quite as good as most of us thought they were and got their butts handed to them twice in a row by two of the very best teams in the AFC. Not good, but not a disaster. However, the Jests are just the patsies they need to get back on track. They need to dominate the Jests on both sides of the ball. Allowing the Jests to make this game close, even though divisional games often tend to be close even when teams are mismatched, would raise red flags about the team IMO. Losing to them would be a disaster and an embarrassment. Yes, yes it would. Go BILLS!!! 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: the other thing Allen could do is let coverage get deep then hit the dump off. If you watch, zones aren’t even covering the flats. Allen is the anti Trent. You can watch him go through his progressions and he sees the Check down, then is like eff that ... home run time! use the short pass as the running game since run blocking is struggling. Singletary might actually be more impactful catching and running dump offs vs handoffs Very, very well put. Would be nice to see this strategy implemented...sadly proally won't happen but would be nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 No win this week is going to provide any super bowl confidence. It's the Jets. The Bills have work to do in order to get to being a playoff contender (meaning has a chance to make a playoff run). It's going to take several weeks and possibly the entire season to get there. They need to do the following... -Shore up the Run D -Start running the ball -Figure out how to get a pass rush going, at minimum in game-critical situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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