Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Frazier’s always been quite basic and conservative imo. He made his defense work in Minnesota with good pass rushers and solid Dline play. I think Frazier’s bend don’t break defense needs guys capable of making plays to function properly. We have no playmakers, and this defense isn’t going to function well without them. The part that sucks is that I think he is one of the best secondary coaches. I think he is a little out of his league at DC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SirAndrew Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The part that sucks is that I think he is one of the best secondary coaches. I think he is a little out of his league at DC. I agree, and we saw that with our secondary early in his tenure. We never did great shutting down the run since McD and Frazier got here, but the pass D was solid. In a pass happy league, we were able to neutralize opponent’s with that pass defense. The 2017 season was a masterclass in solid secondary play for the most part. Frazier doesn’t have the roster to make up for lack of scheme in other areas. One pass rusher could make all the difference in the world, but we just don’t have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I thought he played very well when presented the opportunity to play, good to see him rewarded with being promoted to active roster 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: he got blown off less than the others?? this picture should be in every D coach and players office and locker this week If he sucks less he still sucks lol Edited October 21, 2020 by Do The Reich Thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, fansince88 said: He was playing against 2 and a half linemen there. Lots of other plays can point to this point made better no? well you certainly do not see a typical one tech D dudes pushed 3-5 yards down field so yeah it was that bad 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: Never thought a 300 lb. man could be moved so easily when he's supposedly resisting against it. but hey he's the next kyle williams according to the press release comments on facebook haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, RyanC883 said: he got blown off less than the others?? this picture should be in every D coach and players office and locker this week That was textbook whiteboard blocking. As an old olineman, it would have been a thing of beauty to see if it wasn’t against my team. As anyone who has played any level of football knows, rarely does it work out like it is drawn up, defenders aren’t where they are ‘supposed to be’. In that game the Bills were not only right where they were ‘supposed to be’, they left an open exposed chest for the olinemen to get into and drive them back with superior leverage. Not sure I have ever seen that at the professional level. Edited October 22, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said: For Leslie to say he did good in the run game is a straight up lie. He got blown off the line, constantly. Perhaps you would prefer: "Yeah, Justin pretty much sucks and that's why he's been on the practice squad, but we are between a rock and a hard place right now. We need to try every angle we can to improve the D, with what we have in-house." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said: For Leslie to say he did good in the run game is a straight up lie. He got blown off the line, constantly. He looked good compared to others. Thinnest kid at fat camp kind of praise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNT750 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, msw2112 said: I don't understand the practice squad rules these days, but why are they announcing this today? If he played in the game on Monday, wasn't he added to the 53 at that time? As far as how he played, I don't think it can be said that any of the Bills defensive linemen played well on Monday, but Zimmer did make a couple of hustle plays and seemed to give a lot of effort, so perhaps that elevates him above the others and earned him a spot on the roster. He certainly didn't appear to be any worse than anyone else on the D-line. He does hustle and have heart. I think a few of the new DLsignees don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Perhaps you would prefer: "Yeah, Justin pretty much sucks and that's why he's been on the practice squad, but we are between a rock and a hard place right now. We need to try every angle we can to improve the D, with what we have in-house." Lol I’d appreciate the honesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 OK, so dude got blown up on some running plays. Bottom line, he came within milliseconds of creating a turnover which would have won the game, and he made a crucial 3rd down stop to keep the Bills alive. Did ANYBODY else on defense even make a single play that made a difference? We used to like players who made plays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: OK, so dude got blown up on some running plays. Bottom line, he came within milliseconds of creating a turnover which would have won the game, and he made a crucial 3rd down stop to keep the Bills alive. Did ANYBODY else on defense even make a single play that made a difference? We used to like players who made plays. No one has made a play in two weeks except for Klein and this kid. They aren’t the most talented but at least they are awake 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: No one has made a play in two weeks except for Klein and this kid. They aren’t the most talented but at least they are awake The Zimmer hate is just ridiculous. Anyone standing up for him gets the "Look at this Tweet". Zimmer deserves better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: The Zimmer hate is just ridiculous. Anyone standing up for him gets the "Look at this Tweet". Zimmer deserves better. He’s a backup, to Butler. A fringe guy ... but he’s also not played a ton and is still developing. Let’s see how he progresses. Every single player on that DL needs to improve, I’ll focus on the ones making gobs of money first. Edited October 22, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) He's not a 1-tech, and he is not the answer there, but he played with a lot intensity and did not do a terrible job splitting the center and guard on some plays that helped disrupt the backfield. When trying to take on those double teams, he is just going to have to stay square to the line and drop his knee and try to create a log jam. This is a line that needs an infusion of a talented big-bodied run-stuffing anchor someday. Dareus really screwed over this org by collecting his money, a six year 108 million with a 65 million in guarantees and a 25 million dollar signing bonus then promptly checking out. He could have been that key piece if he had the competitive heart to play the game and some pride in his job. Star has been decent filling in as he could stand his ground. Dareus in prime shape would have given a double-team all it could handle. Edited October 22, 2020 by WideNine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: This has been the story of the year for all of our DL. They are outweighed by 30-60 lbs on average compared to the OL blocking them. We need some beef in the middle, not guys in the 285-300 lbs range and guys on the outside at 260-275 lbs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Yep, 3d chess. (note: little d, not big D because only Belichick can effectively play 3D chess in these matters!) Oh well, welcome to the team big guy! Go get some Flacco this week!! GO BILLS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Well there is this..... https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2020/10/source-bills-add-justin-zimmer-to-53-man-roster-after-another-team-attempts-to-sign-dt.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Well we had a Meatball #95 maybe we can nickname Zim "Meatloaf" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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