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3 hours ago, Captain Caveman said:

We gave up 26 points to the Chiefs.  The only team to give up fewer this year has been the Chargers (who gave up 23 and lost) - the Patriots also allowed 26 (and lost by more than we did.) 

 

Going into this game I thought our recipe for winning against the Chiefs would be holding them to under 30 and scoring more than that.  Were you all really anticipating holding them to much less?

 

Well a few things:

 

1. If the Bills offense isn't the first 4-weeks offense, then the defense needs to keep teams back around 20 ppg again. Teams don't look afraid to blitz Allen and attack the Bills poor offensive line.

 

2. The Chiefs could have thrown the ball. They chose to bludgeon the Bills on the ground and run clock.  

 

3. The Bills have no pass rush. Watch the Steelers, then watch the Bills rush the passer.  

 

Nobody is saying they're the worst defense in the league. But I think you're seeing this team regress back to 2019 somewhat. The offense is coming back to Earth, and can't score, and the defense is going to have to start limiting teams to 20 ppg again. The difference this year is the Bills stayed healthy last year - Milano, Wallace, White. Now they're injured and so keeping 4/5 corner on the opening day roster sticks out like a sore thumb.

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3 hours ago, Captain Caveman said:

We gave up 26 points to the Chiefs.  The only team to give up fewer this year has been the Chargers (who gave up 23 and lost) - the Patriots also allowed 26 (and lost by more than we did.) 

 

Going into this game I thought our recipe for winning against the Chiefs would be holding them to under 30 and scoring more than that.  Were you all really anticipating holding them to much less?

 

 

The weather took away a lot of the Chiefs usual weapons and should have been a huge advantage to us.  Instead we got the ball run right down our collective throats. Glad you think its great their point total was so low, but I on the otherhand think getting dominated on the offensive and defensive front lines so badly is an awful sign. Its not really fixable.  Its just plain being overpowered. I think you can already see the Patriots game plan for us.  Run, run, and more run and keep our offense off the field.

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1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


They (the billsdefense) essentially played the same defense that (the) titans (defense) played vs bills (offense), except KC (offense) can run the ball. (And bills offense cannot) 

 

the scheme was nearly identical, nickel/dime deep cover two /cover 4 zone shell 

You can pretty much sit down virtually anywhere in our zone and be wide open. Zone only works if you have a pass rush. And we don't. 

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3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

 

Well a few things:

 

1. If the Bills offense isn't the first 4-weeks offense, then the defense needs to keep teams back around 20 ppg again. Teams don't look afraid to blitz Allen and attack the Bills poor offensive line.

 

2. The Chiefs could have thrown the ball. They chose to bludgeon the Bills on the ground and run clock.  

 

3. The Bills have no pass rush. Watch the Steelers, then watch the Bills rush the passer.  

 

Nobody is saying they're the worst defense in the league. But I think you're seeing this team regress back to 2019 somewhat. The offense is coming back to Earth, and can't score, and the defense is going to have to start limiting teams to 20 ppg again. The difference this year is the Bills stayed healthy last year - Milano, Wallace, White. Now they're injured and so keeping 4/5 corner on the opening day roster sticks out like a sore thumb.

 

Statistically, we're one of the worst defenses in the league.  That's not hyperbole.

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3 hours ago, Kwai San said:

Here is what what happened......Star stepped out for the season - Lawson went to Miami, Milano has been injured the last 4ish weeks and Lorax retired.  Thats a HUGE chunk of D that left with NO replacement in place.  THERE is the problem.  Whine moan and create any theory you want but there are big parts that have gone MIA and it effects the rest of the D.  The Covids and the Chefs lost practically no one from their starting D last year.....not to mention they are 1 and 2 in the AFC.  Bills were struggling on D before they ran into this buzzsaw.  It will get harder before it gets easier....

That’s no excuse.  There were definitely replacements brought in - and at high cost of contracts and draft capital.  Per Spotrac we have about 1/4 of our cap tied up in the DL alone. Plus a 2019 top 10 pick and this year’s second rounder.  They just aren’t performing (with some notable exceptions like Tre).  Oh and let’s remember that KC was missing 3 starting OL after Schwartz went down early.  Not to mention Watson was out.  But the defense is not alone.  The offense isn’t performing against good defenses either.

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7 hours ago, Captain Caveman said:

We gave up 26 points to the Chiefs.  The only team to give up fewer this year has been the Chargers (who gave up 23 and lost) - the Patriots also allowed 26 (and lost by more than we did.) 

 

Going into this game I thought our recipe for winning against the Chiefs would be holding them to under 30 and scoring more than that.  Were you all really anticipating holding them to much less?

 

 

 

The Pats defense gave up the fewest offensive points to the Chiefs this year (19 points), 7 more came from a pick 6

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