Punching Bag Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, WideNine said: The Jets have a fire sale going on, but I cannot see them trading within our division. If the Bills see a player they want who may be available they can look for a friendly 3rd party to trade for player and then Bills trade that team future picks and/or players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) This crossed my mind last week thinking about J. Phillips's and Lawson's forgot spat with Lewan last year. Did the Bills brass underrate the energy they brought to the team (especially Phillips)? The analytics say they weren't worth how much they got paid for but maybe we should've bit the bullet and resign one of them. It's obvious we need somebody needs to step up to fill that leadership void. Edited October 19, 2020 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Do you think Frazier, McDermott and the Bills see themselves as a "finesse" defense? No I don't think they do, but the reality is they have been a scheme defense built on their coverage rather than a physical defense built on smashing people in the mouth since McDermott has been here. I don't know if you call that finesse or whatever but it has been more about assignment sound football than physical dominance. 2 hours ago, WideNine said: They are really missing that 1-tech defensive tackle that forces the G-C double team w/o giving up too much ground freeing up our other interior DT; Star filled that role last year most of the time. That position really is key to how Sean likes to use his front 4. That 1-tech is not Harrison or Oliver; They are not really built to take on double teams. Still teams have been able to double-team Oliver a lot and that is just a reflection of that lack of a 4-3 NT who would normally demand that attention. Not sure if Beane will consider a trade for someone like the Saints Rankins (could fit the bill, but has some injury history) or they just ride this out and hope for the best and target big-bodied 1-tech DT in the draft - someone like Kentucky's Quinton Bohanna. Although not sure if his knee injury is serious....tough to be an NFL personnel guy these days. The Jets have a fire sale going on, but I cannot see them trading within our division. Not sure Rankins is that natural 1 tech either. He is more like Vernon Butler. He has done it but he is a smaller guy who really wants to play 3 tech. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) Legitimate question. They are quite subtle and delicate at times. Especially on Tuesdays. Edited October 19, 2020 by bmur66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Well the middle of the line is small and weak, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I don’t get wrapped around the axle over these questions (not directed at you Hap), just blow it off. Could she have been a little more tactful, yes, but she knows asking in this manner gets her a little more publicity or clicks. Generally, I’ve thought she does a decent job on NFLN, and probably was looking for a sound bite. Those that said, show it on the field today are right. Let the team’s actions do all the talking. This morning, people are giving a lot of love to the Bucs, Steelers, and Titans. The Bills win convincingly today, and they will be the highlight tomorrow. 🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 hmmmmm She currently works for the NFL Network and WFAN radio in New York City. Bias maybe? of THE only NY team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Do you think Frazier, McDermott and the Bills see themselves as a "finesse" defense? Dolphins, Rams and Titans questioned their manhood, so... why not? they aren't nasty, not finesse. what's left? Edited October 19, 2020 by Mr. WEO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 8 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: Think this was her way of firing up our defense as much praise as she's been singing about this team Could be . I think she's a closet Bill's fan . I think she had a few games with us and realized that something special was brewing. I always see her mention Buffalo on Twitter and she sounds like a fan alot of the time. Great reporter and great question. I wouldn't be surprised if you're correct , as an unbiased way to give the D a little extra juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I didn't think they were allowed into the showers for their post-games anymore 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I think with 4 new pieces to the puzzle it will take time to gel. I thought they did a good job on Tractor Henry last week. CEH is runt by comparison and Shady hasn't lost a step.....he has lost two ;). I figure Bell will be inactive this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Could be . I think she's a closet Bill's fan . I think she had a few games with us and realized that something special was brewing. I always see her mention Buffalo on Twitter and she sounds like a fan alot of the time. Great reporter and great question. I wouldn't be surprised if you're correct , as an unbiased way to give the D a little extra juice Yeah, before the season began, she was all in on this team. But like the rest of us here, she's been asking the same question. WTF happened to this defense?! No one, Bills fan or not, saw this coming. Allen's jump pales in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 7 hours ago, WideNine said: They are really missing that 1-tech defensive tackle that forces the G-C double team w/o giving up too much ground freeing up our other interior DT; Star filled that role last year most of the time. That position really is key to how Sean likes to use his front 4. That 1-tech is not Harrison or Oliver; They are not really built to take on double teams. Still teams have been able to double-team Oliver a lot and that is just a reflection of that lack of a 4-3 NT who would normally demand that attention. Not sure if Beane will consider a trade for someone like the Saints Rankins (could fit the bill, but has some injury history) or they just ride this out and hope for the best and target big-bodied 1-tech DT in the draft - someone like Kentucky's Quinton Bohanna. Although not sure if his knee injury is serious....tough to be an NFL personnel guy these days. The Jets have a fire sale going on, but I cannot see them trading within our division. Im just going off memory on this one but I thought Harrison was a very good NT/DT in college. He was able to shed blockers for a ton of tackles and TFL's. He used to be very hard to move off the LOS and his power in his legs and upper body is close to elite. I'm hoping he can flick a switch and get back to doing what he does best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I think with 4 new pieces to the puzzle it will take time to gel. I thought they did a good job on Tractor Henry last week. CEH is runt by comparison and Shady hasn't lost a step.....he has lost two ;). I figure Bell will be inactive this week. And he played for Tampa last night. Add in the sexy party until the early hours and he'll be at best 50/50 for tonight. Edited October 19, 2020 by BritBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I’m cool with it if she did. It’s warranted. I also don't discount McDermott’s public acknowledgment of the Bell interest as intent to light a fire in our RB room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Do you think Frazier, McDermott and the Bills see themselves as a "finesse" defense? As I give it a bit of thought, I do think they feel that they are a finesse defense over all, which is fine to some extent, but the D line itself needs to dominate and that imo is, mean nasty SOBs, that play with finesse jmo... Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 They just dont have a personality. Unless 'Generic underwhelming and non-physical defense that bends then breaks' is a personality Just remember that tonight is not the season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 10 hours ago, TonyBeets said: You having a problem with this is a bit cringey. It was a question, he answered. Fans always take things much more personal than players. I'm just curious as to the source of your knowledge on how "fans always" and by implication "players always" take things? I personally don't presume to speak for how fans in general always take things, much less players Over my years of fandom, I've been surprised many a time at how a player will tell the media there was hella disrespect in something that an opponent said or did and "it really fired us up" and I'm like "whoa, really?" because it seems to me like a nothing-burger. This seemed like far more of a "something burger" I'm not "taking it personal" in that I'm not personally offended by the question if my interpretation is right. As others have pointed out, our DL has not "shown up" consistently and it shows in the overall defensive results, so Fair Game. I just thought it was kind of bold to go from their results in 5 games to basically "are you guys nasty enough to bring decent NFL line play?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 10 hours ago, NewEra said: I feel Kim Jones is the best reporter on NFLN. I love the question and I think that it might actually have an impact on our DL. Time to step up I'd agree, she really does understand the little details and how they fit into the bigger picture. Take today when she was talking Matt Milano. A lot of reporters will say he's one of their best linebackers, but she pointed out that versatility means that Fraizer won't have to switch up personnel as much between downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, dorquemada said: They just dont have a personality. Unless 'Generic underwhelming and non-physical defense that bends then breaks' is a personality Just remember that tonight is not the season The Bills D under Frazier and McDermott has always had a personality. I liken it to the personality of a sopping wet washcloth flung over your face with a scorpion somewhere in the room. Wait, wait, hear me out. There's a reason waterboarding is a Thing. The problem with a sopping wet washcloth over your face is that it's incredibly hard to breathe through it. That's what the Bills D is designed to do - seal over the opponent's offense and make it difficult to do anything much, while clouding your vision so you stumble into the scorpion that can leap up for the take away or sack and sting you Only this year so far, the scorpion hasn't been in the room an the washcloth is only damp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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