Victory Formation Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Maybe busts, maybe coaching... Leslie Frazier and Eric Washington need to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 How does next year look for defensive players in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, jahnyc said: Oliver does seem pretty average so far, but he would have more opportunities to make plays if he had a true run stopping/space eater defensive tackle. Top 10 DT picks, I would expect, should be able to make plays on their own. I cannot stand when the point is offered a highly drafted player needs another player to complement them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edmunds sucks as a MLB, but they are not moving him to OLB mid-season, and they can't bench him because there is no one to replace him. The best we can hope for is that a day 1 or day 2 pick is used on a MLB at the draft. If not, plan on another year of bad play at MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dirtyd415 said: Could we use more talent, yes. But at what point does coaching/motivating players begins to be questioned? We are playing sloppy, slow, and soft. We hit no one with authority, just hug the ball carrier and get dragged 3-5 yards while waiting for some teammates to push him over. No aggression, fire, or desire to be great on that side of the ball. normally not one to get worked up about defense in today’s nfl but they really had nothing going for them tonight. undisciplined should at least be high intensity. To lazily blow assignments sucks. If you are playing at 110 miles an hour and at least you can create turnovers alongside the missed plays. if playing a finesse game you have to be much better in the reads Edited October 14, 2020 by NoSaint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 You can literally watch Edmunds second guess himself during plays. I have no idea what's up with Oliver except that he benefitted greatly from Star next to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, BillsVet said: Top 10 DT picks, I would expect, should be able to make plays on their own. I cannot stand when the point is offered a highly drafted player needs another player to complement them. And he has at times. The problem with Ed is one of consistency. Even within games he can be up and down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Edmunds = OUT. OF. POSITION. I’ve said this for a season and a half. He has neither the instinct nor the physicality to play. MLB at the NFL level. Edited October 14, 2020 by AlCowlingsTaxiService Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc1320 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edwards doesn’t have the instincts of a Luke Kuechly or Patrick Willis in the middle. I don’t recall a running play this year where he has shot the gap and blown up a running play but have seen him get manhandled by guards firing off the ball and wiping him out on multiple plays each game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 The Edmunds play that genuinely scared me was the short TD run. He was right there - but he wasn't even looking at the runner. It seemed like he was more concerned about simply beating the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Still early to give up on Oli. Edmunds is a deer caught in headlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edmunds has been uncharacteristically bad (go watch 2019 clips), did Zo retiring really impact him that bad? Was Zo a player coach who constantly was tutoring him, like Shady to Robert Foster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee1776 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Not one mention about Trent Murphy/ for the money we pay him. This man is the worst Defensive lineman on the team. Look how many time then ran to his side tonight. No gap integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Hughes and Murphy need to be replaced soon too, not a lot of tread left on those tires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, eee1776 said: Not one mention about Trent Murphy/ for the money we pay him. This man is the worst Defensive lineman on the team. Look how many time then ran to his side tonight. No gap integrity. Murphy is a liability in the run game. Always has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, GunnerBill said: Murphy is a liability in the run game. Always has been. Hughes hasn’t been anything special since Mario Williams left if we are being fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) The Star Lotulelei thing is getting way over-played, the interior run D looks about the same as it did the last 2 years. The problem tonight was can't cover anyone, and losing outside contain. Edited October 14, 2020 by 2020 Our Year For Sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Murphy is a liability in the run game. Always has been. I said from day one 10 mill for what he gives you is a total waste, should have cut him and paid Clowney. The guy gets run over and gives zero pass rush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 With the O-Line holing like they are you might as well put two 340 pound DT’s next to each other and move Oliver to LE. At least stuff the run and keep your LB’s clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I’m telling you. Oliver needs to try to be used on the edge. Just get upfield and smash the tackle with a bull rush.... I like Edmunds but his instinct and ability to get small and slip past guys to make plays is starting to show.... put him in the Lorax role. Off the edge, stunting around or inside, dropping into coverage. He definitely has the length the contain.... something the Bills have been terrible at this year. Hughes and Murphy are just liabilities and aren’t doing anything!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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