JoPoy88 1,384 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Has an NFL MVP fallen so fast so quick. He's an okay QB at best. Jackson is dependent on having an excellent offensive line. Every QB needs at least a decent one, mind you, but Jackson and the playbook Roman has built around Jackson is dependent on excellent OL play. They’ve been decimated by retirements and injuries. I think the ravens are cooked this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Jokeman 1,314 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: he has the same players as he had last season who did the Cravens lose on offense? They traded Hayden Hurst to the Falcons and pretty sure lost others on the Oline. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobobonators 851 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 44 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: come on. He was crowned MVP and a winner with the same crew that is what happens when you crown someone too soon. he’s not an elite QB and he may never be He earned his MVP award. Im not sure why you go out of your way to diminish what he did. Its an award. It has to be given to someone. He had an MVP type season. Get over it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dollars 2 donuts 3,498 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Lamar Jackson career tds: 74 Josh Allen career tds: 74 One of these guys was THE entire League’s MVP just last year, and last year the other guy was mostly considered by many to be marginal NFL QB, at best. Not many in the general football population would guess that it was this close, don’t ya think? Edited November 23, 2020 by dollars 2 donuts 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene1973 762 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Jackson threw the ball a bit better today. But if he doesn't greatly improve at throwing the ball to actual WR's soon, he'll start to look like the gadget QB some predicted and were labelled you know what for doing so. So far Jackson is no Murray... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Ferguson 456 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Lamar is a scat back wearing a quarterback jersey number. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Putin 2,108 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Lamar Jackson career tds: 74 Josh Allen career tds: 74 One of these guys was THE entire League’s MVP just last year, and last year the other guy was mostly considered by many to be marginal NFL QB, at best. Not many in the general football population would guess that it was this close, don’t ya think? That 74th TD by Josh is something Lamar can only make in his dream 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dollars 2 donuts 3,498 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Putin said: That 74th TD by Josh is something Lamar can only make in his dream look, I know it sounds like I am whining about the loss...but oh man that pass so deserved to be for a game they won, let alone a game winning td pass in the 4th quarter. that’s one that should just be rememebered for a long time and I am worried that it won’t be. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JaCrispy 3,046 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: look, I know it sounds like I am whining about the loss...but oh man that pass so deserved to be for a game they won, let alone a game winning td pass in the 4th quarter. that’s one that should just be rememebered for a long time and I am worried that it won’t be. It will be by Bills fans...that’s about it though 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billsfan1972 1,004 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 What is interesting is that they now make excuses for Lamar and give him the benefit of the doubt. This was something Josh never got. Thankfully he has a great TE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SlimShady'sSpaceForce 14,206 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Lamar Jackson career tds: 74 Josh Allen career tds: 74 One of these guys was THE entire League’s MVP just last year, and last year the other guy was mostly considered by many to be marginal NFL QB, at best. Not many in the general football population would guess that it was this close, don’t ya think? Not in the slightest Edited November 23, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dollars 2 donuts 3,498 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Not in the slightest :LOL: 59 passing, 15 rushing for Jackson, including his two playoff games. 51 passing, 21 rushing and 2 receiving for Allen, including his one playoff game. Everything sort of balances in the wash, because Josh has started more games (37-32) than Jackson (that's surprising, too), but Jackson has played in more games than Allen (41-38). Edited November 23, 2020 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SCBills 4,808 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 My biggest issue with this whole Lamar Jackson regression/being-figured-out is that people who defend him harp on not having guys that Mahomes, Allen have... Ok, yes, nobody has what Mahomes has, but in regards to Allen.. Both Allen and Jackson are going to get paid soon.. you can't have everything. Allen doesn't have the running game or tight ends that Lamar Jackson has. What Allen does have is great coaching and a top 5 WR unit. Pick your struggle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White Linen 1,969 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Maybe Lamar is really a WR. Murray is different. He can throw. He's got a fairly weak arm and that could eventually hurt him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SlimShady'sSpaceForce 14,206 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: 59 passing, 15 rushing for Jackson, including his two playoff games. 51 passing, 21 rushing and 2 receiving for Allen, including his one playoff game. Everything sort of balances in the wash, because Josh has started more games (37-32) than Jackson (that's surprising, too), but Jackson has played in more games than Allen (41-38). yet as you said one guy was MVP, the other frowned upon. The Ravens had the better team last season. But last season was last season. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Shaw66 7,620 Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 Well, maybe not quite the end. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miyagi-Do Karate 4,666 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Shaw66 said: Well, maybe not quite the end. haha. Yeah, he’s suddenly Looking like an MVP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy KGB 4,576 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Another playoff loss awaits. Just guard the middle of the field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starrymessenger 560 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Roman can scheme for the run game like nobody's business but it looks to me like Lamar is not appreciably better as a passer than he was at Louisville. I liked him a lot coming out because I thought he showed promise as a passer and we all knew the kind of runner he was. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see much if any progression. -He's at best a tier 2 passer. If I'm right, at the end of the day that's just not good enuf to win a championship. Having a good running game is important but that should be the RBs job. The QBs job is to throw the football. It's a passing league. I expect the Ravens to implode in the playoffs once again. Just too easy to contain when the going gets tough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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