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The pass to Kroft keeps getting criticized- Why?


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2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I just heard Dungy say Josh should not have made the throw to Kroft on the INT play.  Seen others here say the same.  Why?  He hit him right in the hands and we all think it was a completion.   Why should he not make a throw like that?

B/c they knew that if Kroft caught the ball the refs would rule it an INT no matter what.

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It’s a low percentage throw and it was on first down iirc. When you’re up by 18 playing a high powered offense you can toss it away and live to see another day. Throw downfield yes but don’t heave up prayers to JAG tight ends. 

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3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Well Ok it was offensive PI but he gives his guy a chance to make a play.

I don't even think it was PI. Kroft barely touched the guy. But I guess when they see hands on the defender they call it, even though Kroft did not appear to push off to me.

 

But it still wasn't a smart throw.

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It was an incredible throw and a great catch with a horrible pass interference call and a Biblically bad ruling on the INT.  I won't fault Allen or Kroft on that play.  The refs screwed up twice on that play.  Josh was still playing aggressively with the lead trying to put them away, just like everyone on here wants him to.  It was a great play and cosmically bad officiating.

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1 minute ago, Gene1973 said:

The decision may have not been great, but the throw was. Allen completed one to Diggs today when he was double covered, his arm strength allows such passes to be completed.

It was a jump ball, though. He just threw it up there. I was afraid it would get intercepted as soon as he threw it.

1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

If it was DiMarco, we’d be having this conversation. With Kroft and his size, I don’t mind it. Stupid stupid stupid call. Not the best decision, but how long have we been banging the table for a QB to trust his WRs and put the ball in a spot for them to make a play?

That's a good point. Tyrod would have been brutal this game.

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No problem for me with the throw. People here have been bitching about not throwing up contested balls and having faith in your receiver. That’s what good QBs do. Getting conservative isn’t a wise choice against a team that can score in bunches.

It was a completion and they were screwed by a ref/ NY that was trying to get a more competitive game going.

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2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

Yes, but sometimes QB's throw jump balls and expect their guy to come down with the ball. Risky throw, but IMO it worked. It's just that the officials botched the hell out of that play. Allen is going to make more risky throws this season, it's who he is.


I have no problem with jump balls in general. Maybe I should defer to Allen but Kroft to me doesn’t strike me as a “trust him to come down with it” kind of player. 
 

Then again, he did come down with it. But just looking at how Allen threw the ball it was reminiscent of the 2018 Josh “doing too much” that we simultaneously love and hate. 

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20 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I just heard Dungy say Josh should not have made the throw to Kroft on the INT play.  Seen others here say the same.  Why?  He hit him right in the hands and we all think it was a completion.   Why should he not make a throw like that?


because Dungy is 

 

 

 

Out of touch?

 

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17 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I just heard Dungy say Josh should not have made the throw to Kroft on the INT play.  Seen others here say the same.  Why?  He hit him right in the hands and we all think it was a completion.   Why should he not make a throw like that?

All the announcers on that show should be fired. Between our game announcers and these goofballs I would rather eat sand and watch a bowl of gold fish swim in a bowl for 4 hours. 

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