NoSaint Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, prissythecat said: The 49ers have significant talent on both sides of ball as evidenced by Superbowl run last year. However, I believe that they are being held back by a very limited QB in Jimmy Garoppolo who cannot make enough plays to overcome situations where game is close or there is not a huge talent differential. This is certainly a very different situation from few seasons ago when lots of folks were ready to anoint Garoppolo as the next elite QB. Thoughts on where the 49ers should be going with QB ? You can only retain so much talent for so long and windows close quickly. tough spot. hes good but is he “the guy” long term? next year they can bail but what’s the play? Non-top-10 pick won’t be an upgrade. Maybe an end stage vet like Rodgers going home? Edited September 15, 2020 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 To me, he's OK Kyler Murray doesn't belong in italics. He makes huge plays every week. Jimmy G is just a guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 7 hours ago, prissythecat said: The 49ers have significant talent on both sides of ball as evidenced by Superbowl run last year. However, I believe that they are being held back by a very limited QB in Jimmy Garoppolo who cannot make enough plays to overcome situations where game is close or there is not a huge talent differential. This is certainly a very different situation from few seasons ago when lots of folks were ready to anoint Garoppolo as the next elite QB. Thoughts on where the 49ers should be going with QB ? You can only retain so much talent for so long and windows close quickly. ah the Patriots smoke and mirrors strikes again Jimmy is good. How good? But not as good as the contract they paid him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Anybody have Shanahan's record as HC without Garoppolo as his QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He got them back their 4th Q lead late in the game. Just like the Super Bowl. Oh wait. No, he was terrible in the 4th. 3-11 36 yards game sealing pick and a sack. i watch every niner game with my boy. They’re missing their 2 best WR, maybe 3, and Kittle was hurt going into halftime. I feel jimmy is a little limited and shanahans offense would be more effective with a more physically talented qb but I still think he’s good enough to win it all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The 49ers took a 3 point lead 1/3 of the way into the 4th Q. Then the D gives up a TD. The Garoppolo drives down for a TD to regain the lead. The their D gives up another TD on the Cardinal's next drive. Garoppolo drives them again down to the AZ 16. Came up incomplate on 4th and 5. He threw 2 TDs, 259 yards. It wasn't awful. SF's vaunted D couldn't stop Kyler Murray in the 4th Q (despite given TWO leads to protect). Kyler Murray is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 7 hours ago, prissythecat said: The 49ers have significant talent on both sides of ball as evidenced by Superbowl run last year. However, I believe that they are being held back by a very limited QB in Jimmy Garoppolo who cannot make enough plays to overcome situations where game is close or there is not a huge talent differential. This is certainly a very different situation from few seasons ago when lots of folks were ready to anoint Garoppolo as the next elite QB. Thoughts on where the 49ers should be going with QB ? You can only retain so much talent for so long and windows close quickly. I always thought he looked much better in New England...doesn’t seem like the same QB in San Fran... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, NewEra said: Just like the Super Bowl. Oh wait. No, he was terrible in the 4th. 3-11 36 yards game sealing pick and a sack. i watch every niner game with my boy. They’re missing their 2 best WR, maybe 3, and Kittle was hurt going into halftime. I feel jimmy is a little limited and shanahans offense would be more effective with a more physically talented qb but I still think he’s good enough to win it all I don't. You can win a decent number of games with him but I don't ever see him winning a SB. Much less with Shanahan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The 49ers took a 3 point lead 1/3 of the way into the 4th Q. Then the D gives up a TD. The Garoppolo drives down for a TD to regain the lead. The their D gives up another TD on the Cardinal's next drive. Garoppolo drives them again down to the AZ 16. Came up incomplate on 4th and 5. He threw 2 TDs, 259 yards. It wasn't awful. SF's vaunted D couldn't stop Kyler Murray in the 4th Q (despite given TWO leads to protect). don't confuse discussions with facts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Doc said: I don't. You can win a decent number of games with him but I don't ever see him winning a SB. Much less with Shanahan. jimmy G I can understand, but why shanahan? what is it in shanahan that you don’t think he has what it takes to win a super bowl? The guy transformed a trash team into a super bowl contender after year 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, vincec said: Kyler Murray is good. Not yet. Certainly shouldn't be a challenge for the 2nd best D in the NFL against a kid in his second year who they beat twice last year. 16 minutes ago, NewEra said: jimmy G I can understand, but why shanahan? what is it in shanahan that you don’t think he has what it takes to win a super bowl? The guy transformed a trash team into a super bowl contender after year 2. pointing out the obvious does not sway doc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, NewEra said: jimmy G I can understand, but why shanahan? what is it in shanahan that you don’t think he has what it takes to win a super bowl? The guy transformed a trash team into a super bowl contender after year 2. The last 2 SB's he's coached-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I actually watched this game yesterday and I thought Jimmy G was out there all alone on offense. He had no WRs. His TE was hobbled. He has zero weapons, it's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Doc said: The last 2 SB's he's coached-in. That’s really doesn’t make any sense. So he’s a coach that chokes? Any other coaches that don’t have what it takes because of the way they coached IN THE SUPER BOWL? I usually see your side in your back and for the bit this one ridiculous take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Remember when Jimmy G. was supposed to be the next great QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Just now, NewEra said: That’s really doesn’t make any sense. So he’s a coach that chokes? Any other coaches that don’t have what it takes because of the way they coached IN THE SUPER BOWL? I usually see your side in your back and for the bit this one ridiculous take. I said that I don't see Jimmy G and Shanahan winning a SB together. As for Shanahan, he has a lot to prove after the last 2 SB's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Jimmy ain’t going anywhere the next year or two. Shanahan is a run coach and will always prioritize his run game first. Their receivers are a hot mess right now as well. Little quick to judge after one game. I don’t think he’s a top 15 quarterback but they’ve already proven they can win with him. They also won without him the previous year when he was on IR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 8 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: Just saw a recent QB ranking list by some supposed "expert" football writer that had Allen at #20 and Jimmy G in the top 10. Also had Burrow at #26 despite never having played a snap in the NFL and Allen not getting ranked in preseason when he was a rookie. Jimmy G is just going to get that automatic big market respect. They had the 2nd pick in the draft when he was hurt and made the Super Bowl the next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 He's not going to do it on his own but more than enough with that defense and Shanahan putting him into the right spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 28 minutes ago, Doc said: I said that I don't see Jimmy G and Shanahan winning a SB together. As for Shanahan, he has a lot to prove after the last 2 SB's. My bad, I misread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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