HappyDays Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Didn’t see the deep stuff in Game 1, and that’s what I’m needing to see. He had a perfect deep ball on a free play when the Jets jumped Offside but Brown dropped it. If Diggs was there it would have been about a 30 yard completion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 15 hours ago, TwistofFate said: My feelings are torn after today. He exudes such greatness then follows with mass disappointment. Right now I feel really good, but am still very concerned. If the greatness exuding has gone up, and the head scratching remains a constant, that is still improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) like most here, i loved Allen's game yesterday. there is no question that he has come a long way from when he entered the league to where he is today. just a note of caution though, this was the first game of a unprecedented off season. one where there were no preseason games and teams with not a whole lot of continuity are going to have initial pains getting into their groove. that being said, the talent difference out there on the field yesterday was stark. if not for the few miscues we had (though to be fair, every team has them), it would have been over at the half. give it a month, we will have a better idea what level we are at after the Dolphins, Rams and Raiders games and for sure will know where we are after the Titans and Chiefs games. additionally, i think an argument could be made for Josh's fumbles counting against his passer rating. which i think is partly what ESPN's QBR does. he was 13th in the league yesterday at 71.2. with 4 QB's still to be evaluated tonight, he is middle of the pack either way at this point. Edited September 14, 2020 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 15 hours ago, TwistofFate said: My feelings are torn after today. He exudes such greatness then follows with mass disappointment. Right now I feel really good, but am still very concerned. I must’ve missed the “mass disappointment”. I mean, I saw mistakes, but mostly I saw thorough and utter dominance over a lesser foe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) Allen showed he is a playmaker who is capable of commanding a dominant offense. He could have folded on himself after those fumbles and the missed pass to Brown. He didn't fold though. He didn't crumble from his own mistakes. He is mentally tough and I love it. Instead of bowing his head, getting rattled and playing a crappy rest of the game - the dude played through the end of the game like a confident leader who knew he and his team were the better team that day. He had/has the mentality of a champion in my humble opinion. I am excited to see how good this team will look when they play their best game of the year. I can think of three specific times I would like to see that happen 1) Against the Patriots 2) Against the Chiefs 3) Anytime post regular season Edited September 14, 2020 by PolishDave 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 14 hours ago, OZBILLS said: Started off like a house on fire. I am worried about the glaring open misses that keep happening. I will put it down to no pre season games You happen to watch Breeze and Brady yesterday? Plenty of misses, every Qb has a few every game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, ALF said: St Doug , nuff said 🙂 Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said: The Jets did a good job of jamming up our running attack.. Yeah, the Jets had one of the best run Ds in the league last year. Their plan was def to make Allen have to throw the ball, and he did just that. Edited September 14, 2020 by badassgixxer05 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 19 hours ago, HappyDays said: Best throw was the touch pass to Diggs that let him keep running for YAC. That's the sort of throw he could never make his rookie year. Agreed. That was an issue last year as well. Even on the few deep passes Allen connected on, the ball placement usually didn't allow for much more than the catch itself. But if he can place passes to these targets that allow them to rack up YAC, this offense will become exponentially more dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 19 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said: Allen only had one bad pass IMO and that was missing Brown for the TD. Brown end-zone Beasley down the seam, an underthrown completion would be a TD if he leads him Out route to Brown in the 3rd quarter, threw it right into the ground 10ft short with a clean pocket Knox He forced a couple in the end-zone that should've been picked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 20 hours ago, GunnerBill said: It was but most QBs have one of those a game. They happen. To wit... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 20 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: It's hard to understand how Allan can carry the ball so loosely. He's one of the biggest strongest guys on the field, but you think by now he learn that he needs to better protect it and cradle it to his body. There were a couple other times, he could have just as easily fumbled it based on how he was carrying it. Maybe it's a case of WR and RB have enough experience running with the ball and defenders trying to strip it, that they just naturally protect it better. Josh with more limited times running with the ball, he is used to doing it against other who are much weaker so he can get away with it, but not in the NFL. Yeah, I am always puzzled by how he is so bad with it given his size and strength. But, I do think its very much about him not be a natural RB and his muscle memory isn't there yet on having a feel on keeping that ball high and tight. He is so competitive and I think his focus tends to lean on getting more yards and running away from people and that is when his ball security is sloppy. Josh is good at covering it up when he sees the contact coming, but he just doesn't seem to wrap it up fast enough when in traffic before he realizes he is about to get hit. Couple that with his reputation for fumbling, and defenders are focusing on punching that ball out every time too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: To wit... Nobody questions this doesn't happen. Difference is this is showing examples of guys that have won the MVP and are proven passers making bad passes vs a guy that has yet to prove that he can be an accurate passer. Its like the guy that is late to work a few times a week is late and says but everyone is late once in awhile. Yes, true but for them its the exception not the norm. Allen needs to earn a reputation and until then it is what he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, ngbills said: Nobody questions this doesn't happen. Difference is this is showing examples of guys that have won the MVP and are proven passers making bad passes vs a guy that has yet to prove that he can be an accurate passer. Its like the guy that is late to work a few times a week is late and says but everyone is late once in awhile. Yes, true but for them its the exception not the norm. Allen needs to earn a reputation and until then it is what he is. What about yesterday's game has you under the impression Allen is inaccurate? Was it the 70%+ completion rate? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, pi2000 said: Brown end-zone Beasley down the seam, an underthrown completion would be a TD if he leads him Out route to Brown in the 3rd quarter, threw it right into the ground 10ft short with a clean pocket Knox He forced a couple in the end-zone that should've been picked He forced one into the end zone that could have been picked. The other end zone force hit Cole in the feet and while not having a chance at being successful,it was about as dangerous as throwing into the stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: What about yesterday's game has you under the impression Allen is inaccurate? Was it the 70%+ completion rate? Yesterday's game. You said it - one game. As I said - Josh has the well deserved reputation based on his NFL and College stats as being inaccurate. He needs to earn a new reputation. One game does not change that. Do you think it should? Nobody questions this doesn't happen. Difference is this is showing examples of guys that have won the MVP and are proven passers making bad passes vs a guy that has yet to prove that he can be an accurate passer. Its like the guy that is late to work a few times a week is late and says but everyone is late once in awhile. Yes, true but for them its the exception not the norm. Allen needs to earn a reputation and until then it is what he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 50 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: To wit... Calling it one of the worst passes in NFL history is a ridiculous hyperbole too. It wasn't a good pass but come on, one of the worst in history? Worse than a pick 6? Worse than leading your WR into a devastating hit? Worse than Nathan freaking Peterman? Give me a break... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, pi2000 said: Brown end-zone Beasley down the seam, an underthrown completion would be a TD if he leads him Out route to Brown in the 3rd quarter, threw it right into the ground 10ft short with a clean pocket Knox He forced a couple in the end-zone that should've been picked #1 was a little frustrating, but passes like that happen. (As we've seen in this thread). #2-#5 are all just routine hiccups that are completely normal plays in every game at every level including those with future HOF QBs. Literally nobody gets their ball placement exactly right on every single play. Literally everyone tries to thread the needle now and again and has a potential interception dropped. None of those are worth losing sleep over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, pi2000 said: Brown end-zone Beasley down the seam, an underthrown completion would be a TD if he leads him Out route to Brown in the 3rd quarter, threw it right into the ground 10ft short with a clean pocket Knox He forced a couple in the end-zone that should've been picked Are you saying Allen wasn’t PERFECT ?? we need to find a QB that will be perfect every game , missing some throws is unacceptable !!! Edited September 14, 2020 by Putin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecmic82 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 2-3 on passes over 20 yards. Had another free play deep pass to brown that probably should’ve been caught. The pass to Beasley could’ve been better, but that was the type of pass he might’ve missed last year. Great drop-in 22 yarder to Diggs. 24% on 20+ yarders last year. Used snap-count to draw Jets offside on important third down. Looked like he audibled the play that resulted in Brown’s touchdown. designed passes stayed pass plays - which showed me that maybe he’s done a lot of work on going through progressions. Great decision making overall I thought. How many third down throws did he make that were well placed a yard or two past the marker? How many plays did Allen make where you asked, “Why on Earth did you decide to do THAT, Josh”? For me, barely any. Maybe my expectations are too low, but all I care to see is meaningful forward progress from Allen, and I saw that yesterday, especially in the two areas he NEEDED to improve upon - deep throws and decision making. I am happy. Edited September 14, 2020 by Ecmic82 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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