Nextmanup Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 7 hours ago, GreggTX said: I disagree on Poyer. He's solid and that's how most people see him. I would have to start the overrated list with 1. Edmunds and 2. Allen. I do think Edmunds has the tools to continue improving though. John Brown is solid too, but he's nowhere near Diggs. Other than that, I agree. I'd just add Dawkins and Spain as slightly underrated. Josh Allen is easily the most overrated player on the team, and by a wide margin. I like Poyer too. I wouldn't consider Jerry Hughes "underrated" as the OP did. His gas tank has been relatively low for a season or 2 now. He used to be a lot more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I still think some Bills fan underrate how good Ed Oliver can turn out to be. I really expect him to breakout this season and become a legit star in this league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Overrated: Duke Williams Underrated: Duke Williams 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 It depends who I am considering them overrated and underrated by.... In terms of league wide attention I think Josh Allen is probably a little underrated. On this board however he is a little overrated (people here tend to rate him on what he could become not what he is today). But leaving Allen aside I would say most Bill fans overrate Mitch Morse and Mario Addison. I think the two Qs... Quinton Spain and Quinton Jefferson are underrated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It depends who I am considering them overrated and underrated by.... In terms of league wide attention I think Josh Allen is probably a little underrated. On this board however he is a little overrated (people here tend to rate him on what he could become not what he is today). But leaving Allen aside I would say most Bill fans overrate Mitch Morse and Mario Addison. I think the two Qs... Quinton Spain and Quinton Jefferson are underrated. Good call on Addison and Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) Not all that much. Morse isn't terrific, but was never considered to be, I think, by most. He's a solid guy, above average and really good at the mental side of it. Poyer really is excellent, not so much athletically as for playing the position really intelligently and making it very hard for QBs to read the defense. And Milano really is as good as we think he is. Which is to say he's no All-Pro but he also plays very intelligently, reads the right holes nearly every time and is very fast and can cover. If anyone's overrated on these boards, it's probably everyone. Which is pretty natural, as we're Bills fans. Happens with every fan base. The whole team is slightly overrated by our own fans. But every once in a while, a team improves enough to make that overoptimistic fan base look like they'd been right on the money. Hopefully that's us this year. Underrated? Hmm, yeah, good list, Brown and Murphy. Fair enough. Overall I don't think there are major mistakes made on this team. We have a pretty decent grasp on who they are, except for a whipping boy or two that this fanbase always seems to need. Oh, and we don't yet have much of a grasp on the new guys, as Gunner thoughtfully points out. I know I don't, yet. Edited September 13, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Not all that much. Morse isn't terrific, but was never considered to be, I think, by most. He's a solid guy, above average and really good at the mental side of it. Poyer really is excellent, not so much athletically as for playing the position really intelligently and making it very hard for QBs to read the defense. And Milano really is as good as we think he is. Which is to say he's no All-Pro but he also plays very intelligently, reads the right holes nearly every time and is very fast and can cover. If anyone's overrated on these boards, it's probably everyone. Which is pretty natural, as we're Bills fans. Happens with every fan base. The whole team is slightly overrated by our own fans. But every once in a while, a team improves enough to make that overoptimistic fan base look like they'd been right on the money. Hopefully that's us this year. Underrated? Hmm, yeah, good list, Brown and Murphy. Fair enough. Overall I don't think there are major mistakes made on this team. We have a pretty decent grasp on who they are, except for a whipping boy or two that this fanbase always seems to need. Oh, and we don't yet have much of a grasp on the new guys, as Gunner thoughtfully points out. I know I don't, yet. Hmm. I saw lots of "Morse is a top 5 center" posts after the season. His best year in KC - sure. His first year here - definitely not. John Brown I think counted as underrated a year ago. I think there are some on here who now actually slightly overrate him but most have a pretty good handle on him. Equally on Murphy.... is he underrated? I don't know. People would say I underrate him but I just expect my d-end to be able to hit the right run contain lane like 3 or 4 times a game. I don't think I am asking a lot. Sure he made some plays as a pass rusher at the end of last season and by all reports had a good camp (when he most needed it). I have no problem with him being here as such.... he is overpaid though and he remains pretty much a liability in the run game until he shows me on the field that he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Good thread @Ethan in Portland!! This is always one of my favorites. over - Morse under - Levi (a lot to pick from here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Good thread @Ethan in Portland!! This is always one of my favorites. over - Morse under - Levi (a lot to pick from here) I considered Levi. While he is one of the weaker starters on the Bills he is sometimes talked about like a liability and he really isn't. He has proven himself a serviceable starting zone corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Just now, GunnerBill said: I considered Levi. While he is one of the weaker starters on the Bills he is sometimes talked about like a liability and he really isn't. He has proven himself a serviceable starting zone corner. He was playing quite well last year when he went down. Levi seemed to be ascending. I’m in complete agreement. He’s an average(ish) starting CB. He’s certainly not a disaster. Levi is the EXACT type of player that championship teams have a few of. He came out of nowhere, is cheap and can play. He’s found money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Overrated; Oliver and Spain Underrated: John brown, Levi Wallace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: Overrated: Duke Williams Underrated: Duke Williams Often in the course of a game. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: Overrated: Duke Williams Underrated: Duke Williams Often in the course of a game. 😁 * Often by the same person! 😁😁 Edited September 13, 2020 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Overrated; Oliver and Spain Underrated: John brown, Levi Wallace I think Oliver is going to make you eat crow on that one. We shall see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 From Bills fans view: underrated - Spain. Literally no accolades but he was the first that Beane re-signed. Murphy - overcame ACL injury, fans don’t seem to appreciate him. overrated - Hughes. He is slowing down so Beane brought in more bodies to rotate in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Underrated: Roberts, a top 10 yardage returner who does not fumble. What an asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 BIG disagree on Milano. All Cookie does is make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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