BobbyC81 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Bojorquez was at the bottom of the league last year in punt average. He was decent in 2018 with about a 45 yard average but still in the bottom half. If they’re serious about having good special teams, why do they stick with this guy? With his 40 yard average last season, he’s losing 5 to 10 yards of field position vs other punters. I know they emphasize positional punting and dropping the ball inside the 20 but how many times have we seen a shank from our end when a booming kick was needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Because at this point the guys they've brought in weren't better. 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, ColeB said: Bojorquez was at the bottom of the league last year in punt average. He was decent in 2018 with about a 45 yard average but still in the bottom half. If they’re serious about having good special teams, why do they stick with this guy? With his 40 yard average last season, he’s losing 5 to 10 yards of field position vs other punters. I know they emphasize positional punting and dropping the ball inside the 20 but how many times have we seen a shank from our end when a booming kick was needed? Who is available that is any better ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Doesn't help when the OP is looking at the wrong stats. Don't start a thread if you have no idea what you are talking about. Edited September 9, 2020 by TBBills 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Who needs a punter when we're racking up points every game. At this point, why are you even questioning what the FO is doing? I think they've proven themselves enough that they know what they're doing. Edited September 9, 2020 by ProcessYaDigg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 They do it just to rile up the fans... 😁 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Because he has a big leg. This front office seems to value that above all else. His hang times are appalling and the amount of mistakes he makes is quite stunning. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ColeB said: Bojorquez was at the bottom of the league last year in punt average. He was decent in 2018 with about a 45 yard average but still in the bottom half. If they’re serious about having good special teams, why do they stick with this guy? With his 40 yard average last season, he’s losing 5 to 10 yards of field position vs other punters. I know they emphasize positional punting and dropping the ball inside the 20 but how many times have we seen a shank from our end when a booming kick was needed? Part of his average could be what the coach is asking of him. Half his punts go inside the opponents 20, he's near the top of the NFL in that stat. He also forces a lot of fair catches, also near the top of the league. He does have the occasional shank, which is why they brought in competition. They like his potential. Edited September 9, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) BN on Bojorquez. Maybe not as bad as we think or maybe there is not a comprehensive measure of how well punters perform although there have been recent attempts that are attempting to do that. The first search beat the paywall although now it won't. Mark Gaughn article from February that made a case that he was effective by maxing fair catches and limiting returns. Edited September 9, 2020 by JESSEFEFFER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianb386 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Well, you can't say they didn't look at upgrading. It seems Bojo beat out 2 other guys for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Because he has a big leg. This front office seems to value that above all else. His hang times are appalling and the amount of mistakes he makes is quite stunning. to be fair to Bojo, I was pleasantly surprised that last year he avoided a lot of critical mistakes (like not catching snapa). Was his punting good? No. But at least he didn’t lose us any games with boneheaded plays and 19-yard shanks (yeah, the bar is that low). Bojo seems like Rasputin— he’s a survivor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: to be fair to Bojo, I was pleasantly surprised that last year he avoided a lot of critical mistakes (like not catching snapa). Was his punting good? No. But at least he didn’t lose us any games with boneheaded plays and 19-yard shanks (yeah, the bar is that low). Bojo seems like Rasputin— he’s a survivor! He had a punt blocked v. New England that was huge. Not sure if he's slow getting the ball off or if that's on protection but IIRC they've gotten him two years in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Punting is for suckers! 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Cant compare punting stats across teams. Half of Bojo's games are in the Buffalo wind. In contrast, several of the punters being compared to play in a domed stadium. And the blocked punt is not on Bojo but rather on NE recognizing an opportunity against a rookie ST coach (who is great BTW). Edited September 9, 2020 by IgotBILLStopay 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedbuffaloblue Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 IMO he really isn’t that bad. Could he be a bit more consistent, sure no argument there. The FO is doing a masterful job of setting this roster up for at least a ten year run at greatness which hopefully will start this season if the pandemic doesn’t spoil everything. This year they hopefully solved the place kicking part of that puzzle. They challenged Bojo with some competition during camp and he survived that challenge. I think they feel there is still untapped potential there in his strong leg. If that doesn’t materialize I’m confident they will address this position next offseason if not during this season. Tough to make a big upgrade here without signing a veteran FA which don’t come along too often or get lucky drafting a big leg out of college. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 58 minutes ago, ColeB said: Bojorquez was at the bottom of the league last year in punt average. He was decent in 2018 with about a 45 yard average but still in the bottom half. If they’re serious about having good special teams, why do they stick with this guy? With his 40 yard average last season, he’s losing 5 to 10 yards of field position vs other punters. I know they emphasize positional punting and dropping the ball inside the 20 but how many times have we seen a shank from our end when a booming kick was needed? Because we're never punting. 47 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Because he has a big leg. This front office seems to value that above all else. His hang times are appalling and the amount of mistakes he makes is quite stunning. This statement is contradictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedbuffaloblue Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Punting is for suckers! 😉 Is that you Mr. President? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say When... Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 39 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: He had a punt blocked v. New England that was huge. Not sure if he's slow getting the ball off or if that's on protection but IIRC they've gotten him two years in a row. i believe that was more on a formation gaffe than Bojo... https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/film-doesnt-lie-bills-showed-punt-block-confusion-earlier-season-patriots-capitalized i'm not disputing your statement entirely but in this scenario that dude was uncontested, not many punters would have gotten it off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 He has compromising pics of McD and/or Beane. Either that or there's nobody better who's available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 He's an average NFL punter. The net yardage stat is a function of where he was punting from. Ranking third in number of punts inside the opponents' 20 tells you all you need to know about where many of his punts were coming from. McD's strategy was to pin the other team deep in their end and use our defense to force three and outs, thereby winning the field position game... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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